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It's amazing to me how we humans create these so-called problems and then figure the only way to deal with things is by KILLING. Oh yes I forget - 'we are doing the deer a favor by murdering them'. Ridiculous. None of the Hunter's arguments make an ounce of sense to me.
I take it you've never watched an episode of Jersey Shore.
I take it you think all "reality TV" shows are actually real?
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Yes, it was. Additionally, more recent owners made a few cosmetic changes to the house.
The deer are completely befuddled.
Although I would not be surprised if they make it to South Nassau. I heard they are in Islip according to lubby. Pretty crazy.. I don't ever remember seeing deer in Islip.
I take it you think all "reality TV" shows are actually real?
Although I would not be surprised if they make it to South Nassau. I heard they are in Islip according to lubby. Pretty crazy.. I don't ever remember seeing deer in Islip.
There's a small preserve in East Islip. Every time I walk through there I've encountered deer.
I take it you think all "reality TV" shows are actually real?
Although I would not be surprised if they make it to South Nassau. I heard they are in Islip according to lubby. Pretty crazy.. I don't ever remember seeing deer in Islip.
Back in the mid-late 80's I would go to Heckscher Park and check out the deer. There was a deer feeding which would occur around 3-3:30 near one of the parking fields. A NYS Parks Dept truck would spread a line of feed about 75-100' in length and then retreat. From the distance of the parking lot, many people would watch the does, then fawn emerge from the wooded perimeter and start to feed. The bucks, ever wary, would hang along the edges. Younger males would saunter out to the feed line.
Deer on FI and Heckscher allegedly have crossed back and forth over the great South Bay during the rare winters when it freezes over.
When I lived in Islip Terrace (89-91) I would see them on the north shoulder of Sunrise and along the exit ramp to NB Connetquot.
I've encountered them years back (mid 90's) in Bohemia on lawns adjacent to Connetquot Park's northern border.
I wouldn't be surprised if they made it to south Nassau, either. There's enough greenbelt along the SSP for them to wander and graze. Once they hit the Bethpage Pkwy, it's an easy romp to Three Streams/Mass Preserve.
Hello - My husband and I are considering moving to Rutland and we would both work in the hospital. I am a critical care nurse and have a Master's degree. We have two children under 5. I grew up in Norwich VT and my husband is from CT...
We are wondering is Rutland a nice place to live and raise children? how are the school's in the towns like Wallingford and Chittenden and surrounding Rutland?
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From another forum. An intelligent person with a masters who was raised in a hunter-friendly environment YET went on to a career of compassion.
I like how humans are being compared to rats.. I mean, seriously?
Anyone that knows anything about human population growth knows that it's going to taper off mid-century, and eventually start declining.
Humans are going to cure cancer and other diseases and potentially stop the massive asteroid (or other natural disaster) that would have otherwise sent every species of animals into extinction. I asked you earlier, what makes you think that humans are an unnatural part of nature?
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Seriously, though, cancer is not a good example to use if you want to illustrate humanity's alleged brilliance: Most carcinogens are products of human industry.
As for other diseases, we're pretty good at fostering, if not creating, those, too. The reasons I don't eat meat include the drugs and hormones the animals are shot up with and the filthy conditions in which the animals live their short, miserable lives.
Then you have the way we live, especially in the ever-fattening U.S. Type 2 diabetes in kids can hardly be considered progress.
What's unnatural is our continued existence, but I suspect our own stupidity will get the better of us sooner or later. Humans have only occupied the planet for a very short time, relatively speaking. Earth will go on once we manage to remove ourselves from the surface.
Seriously, though, cancer is not a good example to use if you want to illustrate humanity's alleged brilliance: Most carcinogens are products of human industry.
As for other diseases, we're pretty good at fostering, if not creating, those, too. The reasons I don't eat meat include the drugs and hormones the animals are shot up with and the filthy conditions in which the animals live their short, miserable lives.
Then you have the way we live, especially in the ever-fattening U.S. Type 2 diabetes in kids can hardly be considered progress.
What's unnatural is our continued existence, but I suspect our own stupidity will get the better of us sooner or later. Humans have only occupied the planet for a very short time, relatively speaking. Earth will go on once we manage to remove ourselves from the surface.
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There are other diseases we have cured -- like Polio, malaria, flu, typhoid, measles, smallpox etc. I'm not saying humans are saints..we do eff up a lot of things including our air and water. But that's basically a by-product of progress.
The computer you use, the car you drive, the shelter you live under, the "clean" drinking water you consume that's delivered right to your home, the oil and gas you use, the edible food you eat --- how would that be possible without electricity and other pollutants?
Someone with that kind of warped thinking should be living in the mountains..in a shed, eating berries, leaves, and drinking rain water. Why are you and Ilona taking advantage of all the progress that we've achieved if you think humans are a cancer? Seems kinda hypocritical to me.
Anyway... if humans were not at the top of the food chain, what animal would be? Depending on the region, it would likely be crocodiles, lions, sharks and bears. Earth will go on if we manage to become extinct, but I'm sure every other species will go too if something like that were to happen. Maybe there's more to life than just what's on this small little planet. I bet no lions or crocs would have figured out stuff like this below...
There are other diseases we have cured -- like Polio, malaria, flu, typhoid, measles, smallpox etc. I'm not saying humans are saints..we do eff up a lot of things including our air and water. But that's basically a by-product of progress.
We have not "[URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cure"]cured[/URL]" those. Scientists have developed techniques and vaccines to prevent people from contracting them, or to treat people who have. In fact, there is no cure for polio, the flu, or the measles but time, as they are all viral. Once you have a virus, there is nothing you can do about it but treat some of the symptoms while you let it run its course. With the exception of smallpox (and believe me, the CDC has some in storage), we have not even [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/eradicate"]eradicated[/URL] these diseases. People still get them, and people still die from them.
Treatment, prevention, and eradication are all three very different things. Not to throw this back in your face or anything, but I will borrow some phrasing from you and say that "anyone who knows anything about" science or medicine knows the difference, and which terminology to use.
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