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Old 02-21-2012, 11:12 PM
 
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Has anyone here seen this--"Presentation Regarding Long Island School Districts - by the Nassau/Suffolk County School Boards"? Some interesting data there.

http://www.sewanhaka.k12.ny.us/cms/l...%20Jan%203.pdf

This was on p. 16:
Advocating for Long Island: State Support vs. Property Taxes
• According to a Rockefeller Institute report, the downstate suburbs provide 27.4% of New
York State’s total receipts, yet only 17.7% of State expenditures are directed to the downstate suburbs.
• If Long Island were a state and we stopped redistributing our income to other regions,
we could keep up to $5 billion on Long Island— enough to lower our property taxes by 70%
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:28 AM
 
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Has anyone here seen this--"Presentation Regarding Long Island School Districts - by the Nassau/Suffolk County School Boards"? Some interesting data there.

http://www.sewanhaka.k12.ny.us/cms/l...%20Jan%203.pdf

This was on p. 16:
Advocating for Long Island: State Support vs. Property Taxes
• According to a Rockefeller Institute report, the downstate suburbs provide 27.4% of New
York State’s total receipts, yet only 17.7% of State expenditures are directed to the downstate suburbs.

• If Long Island were a state and we stopped redistributing our income to other regions,
we could keep up to $5 billion on Long Island— enough to lower our property taxes by 70%
For that fact alone, LI statehood not only seems prudent, but likely.I'm absolutely certain Brooklyn and Queens would join as well. Can you hear us now Albany? What was that about Taxation without representation? You'll have to figure out a better upstate economy than Jails on your own dime.Better sharpen that pencil quick Mr Cuomo, the poop is about to hit the fan with the 2% cap.I predict a full on freakout when LIs paying north of 10k for crumbling schools.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:08 AM
 
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It seems like that presentation has a very large criteria for what is considered a "low-wealth" school district.

Check out pages 18, 19 and 21 to see what I mean.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Smithtown, NY
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As a region, we send more upstate than we get back. As a state, we send more to Washington than we get back. Welcome to LI/NY.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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Rather than secession just stop paying taxes.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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I am a huge advocate of Long Island statehood ... we should hold a referendum ASAP. I want Long Island to beat Puerto Rico to becoming the 51st state.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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I am a huge advocate of Long Island statehood ... we should hold a referendum ASAP. I want Long Island to beat Puerto Rico to becoming the 51st state.
Oh god the state thing again.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Oh god the state thing again.
What's wrong with statehood? Why should we be subservient to Albany and have to float the rest of the state?
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Dead end - Long Island,
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So then the people worried about being paid fairly for the 165 days a year they work have figured it'll be cheaper for the island to become a state and then they told you about how we lose the state and now pick up the need for jails we don't have, hospitals, all the ROAD WORK is yours, all the plowing, maintenance, bridges, dmv, traffic courts, the parks, EVERYONE cried they'll die with no PD on the l.i.e. (which wouldn't happen without ever having any hwy pd on any hwy) now there is no state pd on the other hwy's, who's gonna make all the state agencies for the new state of long island and pay all those things state aid hospital care, unemployment other social services, NYC, well they're off the hook carrying any weight on that.

or, is the theory to just fire all those people and cut all that work and who needs it?

Well i for one don't see a issue with the loss of pd on the hwy, how much will that save a year?


Now since we're losing the state whats the tax rate going to be, should also be lower.

so our prop tax that is going to the school is going to drop 70% because we became a state. . .

So we become a state and lets say for example my 9800 is going to be around 3000 now, REALLY

So now we become a state and have all the things you all cry about not wanting here. . . . REALLY

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Old 02-23-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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So then the people worried about being paid fairly for the 165 days a year they work have figured it'll be cheaper for the island to become a state and then they told you about how we lose the state and now pick up the need for jails we don't have, hospitals, all the ROAD WORK is yours, all the plowing, maintenance, bridges, dmv, traffic courts, the parks, EVERYONE cried they'll die with no PD on the l.i.e. (which wouldn't happen without ever having any hwy pd on any hwy) now there is no state pd on the other hwy's, who's gonna make all the state agencies for the new state of long island and pay all those things state aid hospital care, unemployment other social services, NYC, well they're off the hook carrying any weight on that.

or, is the theory to just fire all those people and cut all that work and who needs it?

Well i for one don't see a issue with the loss of pd on the hwy, how much will that save a year?


Now since we're losing the state whats the tax rate going to be, should also be lower.

so our prop tax that is going to the school is going to drop 70% because we became a state. . .

So we become a state and lets say for example my 9800 is going to be around 3000 now, REALLY

So now we become a state and have all the things you all cry about not wanting here. . . . REALLY

.
A little convoluted but I tend to agree. The statehood thing sounds like fun but LI govt knows how to play the system and we will just get burned more. We already pay insane school taxes and ask your district how much they ALSO depend on state aid. Just threatening state aid to schools sends tax levies up, imagine adding all the other costs for infrastructure, etc. Something tells me that pie will get ravaged quickly and we'll be left with crumbs (and even higher taxes). Just my opinion.
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