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Old 02-24-2012, 07:20 AM
 
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IMO prices will fall 100K. I could go on and on about how and why, but really it's the same reasoning you read everywhere.
I understand what you are saying. However, I have been following the market on LI for over 4 years (as a buyer). I too looked in PW so I know the market a bit there.

What you are seeing inventory wise now has dropped considerably already. I don't think you will find that much more of a drop (meaning a 100,000 drop) on top of what you already see. I don't see the day where you can buy something decent in a nice area in PW for $500. Now I could be wrong, but I really don't see that coming at all. Like I said maybe $550 or $575, but $500 for something other than a total gutjob or least desirable area in PW, I don't see it. We ARE talking about a nice North Shore town with a great train line. So no, I definitely do not see a decent house ever going for $500 in PW in these times. But only time will tell I guess. Either way, I suggest you either have to up your budget or come up with town B to choose from (in case the drop you imagine will happen, does not, which I really don't think it will).

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Old 02-24-2012, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Village of Patchogue, NY
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No down payment saved up, so this means you have 22 months til the end of 2013 to save up 20% (100k+), that's at least 5k a month if you factor in closing costs. $6k a month when you start looking at homes in the 600k range. The reason I say 20% because PMI is for suckers. Can you swing it?

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... surely prices will continue to fall into 2013
Do you work in Real Estate Finance or related field to fill us in on how you are so sure? Just yesterday, I read that interest rates are going up! So even if home prices fall, what does the effect of higher interest have on the cost of home ownership? Something to consider.

30-year mortgage interest rates jump to 3.95% - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

You need to run some numbers, see where you are, see where you want to be, and make a plan. Take into account your "projected housing market" and your "projected interest rate" both in the worst case scenario for safety, and that will determine the highest rung you can reach on the property ladder.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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I understand what you are saying. However, I have been following the market on LI for over 4 years (as a buyer). I too looked in PW so I know the market a bit there.

What you are seeing inventory wise now has dropped considerably already. I don't think you will find that much more of a drop (meaning a 100,000 drop) on top of what you already see. I don't see the day where you can buy something decent in a nice area in PW for $500. Now I could be wrong, but I really don't see that coming at all. Like I said maybe $550 or $575, but $500 for something other than a total gutjob or least desirable area in PW, I don't see it. We ARE talking about a nice North Shore town with a great train line. So no, I definitely do not see a decent house ever going for $500 in PW in these times. But only time will tell I guess. Either way, I suggest you either have to up your budget or come up with town B to choose from (in case the drop you imagine will happen, does not, which I really don't think it will).
You make some very good points. Let's not forget astronomically high property taxes.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Glen Head, NY
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you could always go cha if you anticipate a windfall down the road which would help you kill the gov's version of pmi
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Village of Patchogue, NY
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you could always go cha if you anticipate a windfall down the road which would help you kill the gov's version of pmi
go cha?
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:54 AM
 
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I was a similar situation to you. Lived in UWS for a year, then Astoria for 2.5. Looked to buy a house a year and a half ago across Queens; gradually kept looking eastward on the Port Washington LIRR line (my wife and I both work in Manhattan). Great Neck and Manhasset were too expensive; settled on PW. We bought our house early 2011.

I can't offer much advice though. My only advice to you would have been to tighten your belts more. I do not understand how you can be 34 and have no savings for a down payment. You make a good combined income. You should have lowered your expenses earlier on, because you need a greater budget than $500k. I mean, you carry credit card debt. C'mon now. High 500's or low 600's will get you something decent; high 600's and you will a nice place. But not in Baxter Estates or any of the incorporated areas. You don't want to pay those higher taxes anyway.

I know I am sounding preachy but the tone in your OP frustrated me; you came off as a little entitled (I can spend $500k on a house yet no savings and actually a little CC debt. Now show me my dream house in Port Washington!). I love PW for the same exact reasons you mentioned. And I grew up on LI and wanted to raise a child there. We are similar. But I am four years younger than you and my wife and I lived within our means and saved.

I would suggest you look in the Park section of PW. Your budget now will land you in crappy Manorhaven. But you need to increase your budget broseph. Somehow. Something has to give, and it might be your expectations.

P.S. Nothing wrong with steam heat.

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Old 02-24-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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I understand what you are saying. However, I have been following the market on LI for over 4 years (as a buyer). I too looked in PW so I know the market a bit there.

What you are seeing inventory wise now has dropped considerably already. I don't think you will find that much more of a drop (meaning a 100,000 drop) on top of what you already see. I don't see the day where you can buy something decent in a nice area in PW for $500. Now I could be wrong, but I really don't see that coming at all. Like I said maybe $550 or $575, but $500 for something other than a total gutjob or least desirable area in PW, I don't see it. We ARE talking about a nice North Shore town with a great train line. So no, I definitely do not see a decent house ever going for $500 in PW in these times. But only time will tell I guess. Either way, I suggest you either have to up your budget or come up with town B to choose from (in case the drop you imagine will happen, does not, which I really don't think it will).
I agree with this post.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:09 AM
 
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I would suggest you look in the Park section of PW. Your budget now will land you in crappy Manorhaven. But you need to increase your budget broseph. Somehow. Something has to give, and it might be your expectations.

P.S. Nothing wrong with steam heat.
I agree with OP looking in the Park section. But I do agree, as I said before. $500,000 will only land you a home in Manorhaven, which is not where I would suggest buying. Home prices in PW, nice areas, are highly unlikely to drop to $500k.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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autocorrect, fha

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go cha?
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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without sounding like an a-hole, i find pw kind of overrated unless you can buy in baxter estates. by the water is pretty but the majority of it looks dumpy. i know it is sort of sold as a more culturally aware area but has nothing on sea cliff or huntington IMO.
Yeah. The commute to NYC is a lot easier though.
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