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Old 03-11-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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I recently bought a house in zip 11590 and looking to make a few improvements. Below is a list of items i'm looking to upgrade and wondering if the town requires permits. I will be doing some work myself and some will be done by contractors. I have been reading other forums about permits and most people say to keep hush about them but i do not want problems when it comes to selling down the road. Any comments will help.

1. New siding and roof.
2. Changing single back door to slider.
3. Kitchen upgrade. Plumbing and electrical will be shifted around.
4. Removing interior walls to open up space. One wall possibly load-bearing.
5. Changing windows on first floor. One will need a bigger opening.
6. Dumpster on property.

Also what could potentially be the fines if permits are not filed?

--Thanks
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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You're in the Town of North Hempstead, and may be in the Village of Westbury.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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I recently bought a house in zip 11590 and looking to make a few improvements. Below is a list of items i'm looking to upgrade and wondering if the town requires permits. I will be doing some work myself and some will be done by contractors. I have been reading other forums about permits and most people say to keep hush about them but i do not want problems when it comes to selling down the road. Any comments will help.

1. New siding and roof.
2. Changing single back door to slider.
3. Kitchen upgrade. Plumbing and electrical will be shifted around.
4. Removing interior walls to open up space. One wall possibly load-bearing.
5. Changing windows on first floor. One will need a bigger opening.
6. Dumpster on property.

Also what could potentially be the fines if permits are not filed?

--Thanks
Permit necessary Y/N to the best of my knowledge:

1. New siding and roof. No permit needed if direct replacement.
2. Changing single back door to slider. Not really as the town doesn't have a record of the door and it doesn't require a CO.
3. Kitchen upgrade. Plumbing and electrical will be shifted around. Definite YES if relocating plumbing/electrical. Permits required for all three (building, plumbing, elec).
4. Removing interior walls to open up space. One wall possibly load-bearing. Likely YES as it will effect electrical and if any room becomes classified a bedroom it will have requirements for smoke alarm. Work could be done without permit but if the town sees the dumpster or anyone complains, they will come snooping.
5. Changing windows on first floor. One will need a bigger opening. Not necessarily. They usually have no record of windows.
6. Dumpster on property. In driveway, NO. On street YES. Dumpster rental co. will charge a few extra bucks for the permit if the dumpster has to be on the street. Not a big deal. No need to deal with the town for this one.
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:59 AM
 
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Changing the back door to a slider definitely requires a permit.
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Permit necessary Y/N to the best of my knowledge:

1. New siding and roof. No permit needed if direct replacement.
2. Changing single back door to slider. Not really as the town doesn't have a record of the door and it doesn't require a CO.
3. Kitchen upgrade. Plumbing and electrical will be shifted around. Definite YES if relocating plumbing/electrical. Permits required for all three (building, plumbing, elec).
4. Removing interior walls to open up space. One wall possibly load-bearing. Likely YES as it will effect electrical and if any room becomes classified a bedroom it will have requirements for smoke alarm. Work could be done without permit but if the town sees the dumpster or anyone complains, they will come snooping.
5. Changing windows on first floor. One will need a bigger opening. Not necessarily. They usually have no record of windows.
6. Dumpster on property. In driveway, NO. On street YES. Dumpster rental co. will charge a few extra bucks for the permit if the dumpster has to be on the street. Not a big deal. No need to deal with the town for this one.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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Changing the back door to a slider definitely requires a permit.
Really? Why? Very little about doors at all in building zone ordinance. It is not on the survey. Unless it affects electrical or plumbing (might if you have baseboard heat), where does the code say it needs a permit? I'm just curious. I don't see it in the ordinance at all.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:10 AM
 
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Can't tell you why. Maybe the structural issue of open a much bigger hole? I had to get a non-confirming CO to do work on my house. I needed permits for fence , shed and the slider in order to complete it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:15 AM
 
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A larger opening for a door or window requires structural changes. You need to install a bigger header.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:38 AM
 
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And most of all, remember that the permit nazi's are not looking after your safety and well being, they are after your money.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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There is the question of do you have to get permits, or should you get permits....

1- Roof/siding, I don't know if its required, I don't know anyone who gets permits for this
2-its most likely required, you changing a structural element and therefore they probably require one.
3-again, required, plumbing and electrial changes
4-any layout changes they want you to update the plans, and doublely so if structural.
5-bigger opening--- again structural probably permit required.
6-in driveway its not reqired, don't know streetwise....

if I were doing it 100% myself, I probably would skip permits on all of the above. If I'm hiring a contractor and I don't know 100% what I'm doing, I'd consider getting permits when I did the structural changes. probably can all be wrapped into 1 permit, plus the plumbing electiral add ons
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Can't tell you why. Maybe the structural issue of open a much bigger hole? I had to get a non-confirming CO to do work on my house. I needed permits for fence , shed and the slider in order to complete it.
Ah, another survivor of the TOH Bldg dept. Not surprised about the slider thing at all. Thanks.
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