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Old 04-02-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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I was browsing some home values and tax assessments on the Nassau County property appraiser's website (Land Record Viewer) and noticed they list both "general" taxes and school taxes. Are homeowners liable for both of these every year?

On properties in the $1.5 - $2 million range in Great Neck, general taxes were around $8,500 and school taxes were upwards of $25,000! The school tax was what really surprised me. Are these homeowners actually paying $25-30k per year just in school taxes, or am I misunderstanding what this number means? How can anyone afford to buy a home when they have essentially have a second mortgage just from taxes?
That is why the housing market will still lag here on Long Island after it recovers elsewhere.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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Unfortunately, I don't think that tax cap will have the effect most were hoping for. One of the major loopholes - a school district can override the tax cap if 60% of the voters approve their larger budget. I know my underperforming district of South Country passes their budget annually by about 65% (as many other districts do). So, I think A. Cuomo created a bill that, while it makes him seem sympathetic to the taxpayer (so he gets their votes), it really changes nothing....and I'm sure he knew this when the bill was signed into law. More BS politics as usual...
And not even Andy claimed it would reduce property and general taxes...it might possibly slow their growth to 2%. And that is apart from the 60% loophole.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Commack, NY
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Unfortunately, I don't think that tax cap will have the effect most were hoping for. One of the major loopholes - a school district can override the tax cap if 60% of the voters approve their larger budget. I know my underperforming district of South Country passes their budget annually by about 65% (as many other districts do). So, I think A. Cuomo created a bill that, while it makes him seem sympathetic to the taxpayer (so he gets their votes), it really changes nothing....and I'm sure he knew this when the bill was signed into law. More BS politics as usual...
Tell that to all the teachers about to get laid off
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Unfortunately, I don't think that tax cap will have the effect most were hoping for. One of the major loopholes - a school district can override the tax cap if 60% of the voters approve their larger budget. I know my underperforming district of South Country passes their budget annually by about 65% (as many other districts do). So, I think A. Cuomo created a bill that, while it makes him seem sympathetic to the taxpayer (so he gets their votes), it really changes nothing....and I'm sure he knew this when the bill was signed into law. More BS politics as usual...

Your district passed the budget by 65%, that's rather stunning. Most districts are in the high 50's. Also you will see a lot more voters come out when the vote has some meaning, usually pass vs fail amounts to very little. Most years it's not worth voting against a budget and going austerity for virtually no change in taxes, this is different.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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How about some research to back up what sounds like teachers' union scare tactics about your purported "real world?" I don't think it works quite that way in County school districts across the country.
I would guess that they were talking about NCLB. In my NYC school we have a large number of out of district students who are in our school because of this.
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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I would guess that they were talking about NCLB. In my NYC school we have a large number of out of district students who are in our school because of this.
Yes, that's right, under NCLB you can request a transfer out of an underperforming district.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:12 PM
 
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Tell that to all the teachers about to get laid off
Is your source of info something other than the Teacher's Union monthly?

If your information is valid and from a reliable source then, why wouldn't the Teacher's union be more efficient with the funds they can amass? Why not lower the percentage of increases (including step increases) for all teachers and freeze the pay of administrators for at least one year to prevent layoffs? Doing what is best for all of its consitituents....isn't that what a union is supposed to do?
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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Your district passed the budget by 65%, that's rather stunning. Most districts are in the high 50's. Also you will see a lot more voters come out when the vote has some meaning, usually pass vs fail amounts to very little. Most years it's not worth voting against a budget and going austerity for virtually no change in taxes, this is different.
It was > 60%...I remember that much and being stunned since South Country is a consistently underperforming district. If you're going to pass their budget, at least make them accountable for their performance.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Is your source of info something other than the Teacher's Union monthly?

If your information is valid and from a reliable source then, why wouldn't the Teacher's union be more efficient with the funds they can amass? Why not lower the percentage of increases (including step increases) for all teachers and freeze the pay of administrators for at least one year to prevent layoffs? Doing what is best for all of its consitituents....isn't that what a union is supposed to do?
You would think ...

There's a strict hierarchy in a union. The members with the most seniority count the most. Merit is laughable. Merit has nothing to do with anything in a union. They don't care what happens to the newbies, and that includes them losing their jobs.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Is your source of info something other than the Teacher's Union monthly?

If your information is valid and from a reliable source then, why wouldn't the Teacher's union be more efficient with the funds they can amass? Why not lower the percentage of increases (including step increases) for all teachers and freeze the pay of administrators for at least one year to prevent layoffs? Doing what is best for all of its consitituents....isn't that what a union is supposed to do?
Today's Newsday (p. A24) stated that Commack is laying off forty to sixty teachers this year. No word on administrative cuts or any decrease in the superintendent's or assistant superintendents' salaries.
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