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I am from Long Island and its a risk to live here because if something was to happen it would be impossible for the people that live on eastern long island to evacuate the Island.... I think a bridge would be amazing also because Long Islanders can shop in CT and also visit the casino without having to deal with traffic in the city
It may be time to end the Cul de Sac and open us up to New England?
What do you think?
I think its time has come.
C
NO I do not support a bridge to Connecticut but I DO support a bridge to Westchester county. Its not really a equal two way street, its in Connecticut's favor and its actually bad for New York State.
If you built a bridge, people from Connecticut might come to Long Island beaches instead of the overcrowded Rhode Island ones. However many of the beaches on Long Island they will be attracted to will be public beaches and will not really bring that much revenue to NY State.
In contrast, it will be easier for New Yorkers (Long Islanders) to spend much more money on CASINOS in Connecticut, or visit Boston or the White Mountains, instead of supporting New York City.
Now I would personally love to be able to reach Boston easier but it would be incredibly bad state policy to spend huge amounts of money building and then MAINTAINING a bridge which actually results in lost revenue from New York to other states. Instead the state should build a bridge to connect to the Cross-Westchester expressway (and thus the NYS Thruway) to connect Long Island to The Hudson Valley. In this way Long Island supports the Hudson Valley/Catskills/Adirondacks and vice versa.
To me this is yet another example of backwards policy much like those morons who oppose universal healthcare.
Why wouldn't any progressive thinker want to improve the transportation on the east coast?
Traffic is an absolute nightmare and it makes all the sense in the world to build not one but TWO bridges.
First, build the one from Westchester to Long Island.
This way, you can complete the beltway and allow those headed for the hudson valley/upstate NY from LI to bypass the city.
Then build a bridge from New Haven to central Long Island.
This will allow a second option for truckers headed to NYC and will severely help improve the I-95 corridor in CT which is completely overcrowded and out of any options to widen the road.
You will open up CT and NE to Long Islanders and will open up Long Island to New Englanders.
As mentioned too, this is also a matter of national safety.
I can not see why when the technology exists we would deny ourselves this oppurtunity to improve the 'funneling' effect which is responsible for the major congestion in the NYC region.
I support it, the LIE could probably support the traffic, but the New Englanders would probably be attracted to the beaches on the south shore and with the influx of people things wouldn't be the same with all the crowds everywhere and traffic on the south shore would be beyond terrible. The stores and malls might see increased business though.
It would probably be a quicker to get down I-95 with this route.
To me this is yet another example of backwards policy much like those morons who oppose universal healthcare.
Why wouldn't any progressive thinker want to improve the transportation on the east coast?
Traffic is an absolute nightmare and it makes all the sense in the world to build not one but TWO bridges.
First, build the one from Westchester to Long Island.
This way, you can complete the beltway and allow those headed for the hudson valley/upstate NY from LI to bypass the city.
Then build a bridge from New Haven to central Long Island.
This will allow a second option for truckers headed to NYC and will severely help improve the I-95 corridor in CT which is completely overcrowded and out of any options to widen the road.
You will open up CT and NE to Long Islanders and will open up Long Island to New Englanders.
As mentioned too, this is also a matter of national safety.
I can not see why when the technology exists we would deny ourselves this oppurtunity to improve the 'funneling' effect which is responsible for the major congestion in the NYC region.
Unreal.
Stifled, I can see your trying to see the bigger picture by suggesting two bridges and I commend you for it. But while I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT A BRIDGE TO WESTCHESTER, I believe that a bridge to Connecticut is a bad idea for Long Island and New York State.
First, I believe a bridge will lead to New Yorkers spending more money at casinos versus people from Connecticut visiting Jones Beach. One state is making alot more money out of the deal to say the least.
And before you say it will help the Hamptons, I would say the road network out there is already pretty much at full capacity in the summer right now. It would actually make more sense (and a LOT cheaper) to build more ferry service to the Hamptons and New England if it is really wanted.
Which brings me to your main point about traffic being an absolute nightmare.
As you say, building a bridge to Connecticut will give truckers another option "and will severly improve the 1-95 corridor in CT".
But at the cost of increased truck and car traffic for Long Island! Anyone who travels west and east here on Long Island knows the last thing we need to do is add more out of state traffic to the mix. And this is a safety issue as well.
If Connecticut wants to improve the 1-95 corridor let them widen the road instead of shifting the traffic over here, one of the most densely populated parts of the United States. And this is something to needs to be done desperately anyway not only in Connecticut but in New York and New Jersey as well.
To me this is yet another example of backwards policy much like those morons who oppose universal healthcare.
Why wouldn't any progressive thinker want to improve the transportation on the east coast?
Traffic is an absolute nightmare and it makes all the sense in the world to build not one but TWO bridges.
First, build the one from Westchester to Long Island.
This way, you can complete the beltway and allow those headed for the hudson valley/upstate NY from LI to bypass the city.
Then build a bridge from New Haven to central Long Island.
This will allow a second option for truckers headed to NYC and will severely help improve the I-95 corridor in CT which is completely overcrowded and out of any options to widen the road.
You will open up CT and NE to Long Islanders and will open up Long Island to New Englanders.
As mentioned too, this is also a matter of national safety.
I can not see why when the technology exists we would deny ourselves this oppurtunity to improve the 'funneling' effect which is responsible for the major congestion in the NYC region.
Unreal.
I love that anyone who disagrees with you is a "moron" - I think anyone who favors a bridge which would bring I-95 traffic onto Long Island is a .............. well unlike some people I won't call anyone names.
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Stifled, I can see your trying to see the bigger picture by suggesting two bridges and I commend you for it. But while I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT A BRIDGE TO WESTCHESTER, I believe that a bridge to Connecticut is a bad idea for Long Island and New York State.
First, I believe a bridge will lead to New Yorkers spending more money at casinos versus people from Connecticut visiting Jones Beach. One state is making alot more money out of the deal to say the least.
And before you say it will help the Hamptons, I would say the road network out there is already pretty much at full capacity in the summer right now. It would actually make more sense (and a LOT cheaper) to build more ferry service to the Hamptons and New England if it is really wanted.
Which brings me to your main point about traffic being an absolute nightmare.
As you say, building a bridge to Connecticut will give truckers another option "and will severly improve the 1-95 corridor in CT".
But at the cost of increased truck and car traffic for Long Island! Anyone who travels west and east here on Long Island knows the last thing we need to do is add more out of state traffic to the mix. And this is a safety issue as well.
If Connecticut wants to improve the 1-95 corridor let them widen the road instead of shifting the traffic over here, one of the most densely populated parts of the United States. And this is something to needs to be done desperately anyway not only in Connecticut but in New York and New Jersey as well.
This is not a diversion of traffic just to help CT.
Many of those trucks and travelers have to 'funnel' I-95 in CT when they are in route to Long Island.
This adds costs and time which could be shaved off if there was a bridge from Westchester and CT.
I think this would help out the state of NY because it would make Queens/NYC easier to access with a 2nd option, also helping out Westchester County with less traffic, and adding evacuation routes.
Further, having the bridge to CT would involve making it one for the purposes not of daily commuting and sprawl but as a short cut for truckers/business/and vacation and thus a substantial toll would be in place.
wouldnt a "bullet train" or one of those new, fancy mono-rails from conneticut to jones beach be a great idea? it would give us less traffic.
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