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Old 06-16-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Based on your scenario, yes you would. Based on the fact pattern of what happened 14 months ago, if it was the Police Officer was struck, he'd more than likely be vilified publicly versus the woman who was stuck as she was "legally drunk" at the time of the accident. Now, last time I checked, it's not against the law to be intoxicated and walking...just like operating above the posted speed limit in and of itself isn't reckless as per either the laws of NYS or the practices of the DA's office. Lastly, all of the work put in by the reconstruction specialist is all open to public scrutiny. Personally, I think it's more about what the OP is implying versus saying, but...
Wow your poster name truely fits you.
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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and you wonder why threads get closed...
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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does everyone always know how fast they're going?
Come on, we both drive. We may not know the exact speed we are driving at, but on a public road (passing parked cars) we can guage the difference between 30mph and 60mph. I've been driving for over 30 years and have never gotten a speeding ticket. I've had numerous cars that have gone over the 200k mark (and one that went over the 300k mark). Also being a past NYC Paramedic I took the same driving course as NYPD/NYFD, we were trained to guage speed without looking at the speedometer.

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And, the information is coming from, where, exactly? A faltering and ofttimes biased paper in Newsday?
This no longer matters as the Black Box recorded his speed.

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Lastly, is it even possible that this will torture the driver for life, knowing that he killed someone?
Will it torture him? Thats up to the individual. Is it something that will come up in his dreams? Yes
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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and you wonder why threads get closed...
This thread was closed are re-opened to discuss this situation. And as long as this doesn't become a Police Officer bashing thread it will most likely stay open.
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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you raise good points NeilVA...but since we don't know they whole story, or more accurately, I know I don't, I'm offering up other suggestions. I've heard stories that he was responding to assist another officer; again...I wasn't there. And, it's just a matter of time before the bashing begins.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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It's one thing to offer up other possible suggestions. It's another to argue for the sake of arguing which certain responses clearly show.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Dead end - Long Island,
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And traditionally, the Penal Law supersedes the VTL, and, reckless driving is notoriously difficult to prosecute we well as requiring more evidence then provided here, and, Emergency Vehicles are exempt from the VTL. Is it so hard to accept that it's just an accident?
Emergency vehicles are ONLY emergency vehicles when the emergency lights are flashing, when not they are a regular vehicle subject to the same as any other.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Dead end - Long Island,
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Come on, we both drive. We may not know the exact speed we are driving at, but on a public road (passing parked cars) we can guage the difference between 30mph and 60mph. I've been driving for over 30 years and have never gotten a speeding ticket. I've had numerous cars that have gone over the 200k mark (and one that went over the 300k mark). Also being a past NYC Paramedic I took the same driving course as NYPD/NYFD, we were trained to guage speed without looking at the speedometer.



This no longer matters as the Black Box recorded his speed.



Will it torture him? Thats up to the individual. Is it something that will come up in his dreams? Yes

I would suspect he will be a very different driver in any wet weather condition.
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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Emergency vehicles are ONLY emergency vehicles when the emergency lights are flashing, when not they are a regular vehicle subject to the same as any other.

Sorry, but no. The point of equipping emergency vehicles with lights and sirens is to allow them to violate traffic laws in order to respond to something quickly. However, police vehicles are specifically exempted under the VTL from having to use lights and sirens when violating traffic laws. Fire trucks and ambulances must use both lights and sirens when violating traffic laws.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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many PO think they are above the law...the law doesn't apply to them
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