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Old 07-03-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ydsavaged View Post
Great River is a money area.

I think you all have warped views on what's considered middle class.

Crooks - Go look at house prices. If Bohemia is fairly working class, then Rocky Point is a ghetto.
Rocky Point, like Bohemia is an average Middle Class town with some areas of affluence.

Great River, is old money.
I'm not sure why the hostility.

Crooks
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:25 PM
 
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I really expected to get some Centerport responses on this thread!
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Kings Park, NY
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Rocky Point, like Bohemia is an average Middle Class town with some areas of affluence.

Great River, is old money.
I'm not sure why the hostility.

Crooks
No hostility here...I actually almost agree with all you just said, I am just a firm beleiver in the "house prices are certain prices for a reason" theory, and Bohemia's are rather high, along with the taxes.

Higher then Rocky Point's, that is. But if you see the affluence in RP then hey, that's great.

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Old 07-03-2012, 06:46 PM
 
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I know Great River has money. The thread topic is upper middle class.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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How about Brightwaters? That's upper middle right? Don't know much about the area though..
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Crookhaven View Post
Rocky Point, like Bohemia is an average Middle Class town with some areas of affluence.

Great River, is old money.
I'm not sure why the hostility.

Crooks

According to the 2010 census, Bohemia's median household income beats Rocky Point by nearly 11k. Per capita income beats it by more than 5k. Average house value beats it by nearly 100k. RP has more than 3x the amount of people living in poverty. Not insignificant amounts.

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Bohemia

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $441,700 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 3,461 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 2.84 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $37,686 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $91,047 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 1.8% 14.2%
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Rocky Point (CDP)

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $344,800 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 4,749 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 2.86 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $32,501 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $80,189 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 6.5% 14.2%
These stats place Rocky Point below the average income (both MHI and PCI) and median housing value in Suffolk, making its as position as "middle class" in Suffolk County precarious.

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Suffolk County

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $424,200 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 495,289 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 2.93 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $35,755 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $84,506 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 5.7% 14.2%
Comparably, in terms of income, RP is closer to Huntington Station than Bohemia. RP slightly edges out HS in income (PCI by 2.5k and MHI by 5.5k), although HS has higher medium home values.

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Huntington Station

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $419,100 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 10,308 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 3.06 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $30,052 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $74,667 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 11.3% 14.2%

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Old 07-03-2012, 08:13 PM
 
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I really expected to get some Centerport responses on this thread!
Agreed 100% on Centerport. My wife and I have seriously considered downsizing to a waterview there once our youngest is off to college. My son and his family live there and couldn't be happier.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Kings Park, NY
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According to the 2010 census, Bohemia's median household income beats Rocky Point by nearly 11k. Per capita income beats it by more than 5k. Average house value beats it by nearly 100k. RP has more than 3x the amount of people living in poverty. Not insignificant amounts.

(numbers to the left are the locality average. Numbers to the right are NYS average)




These stats place Rocky Point below the average income (both MHI and PCI) and median housing value in Suffolk, making its as position as "middle class" in Suffolk County precarious.



Comparably, in terms of income, RP is closer to Huntington Station than Bohemia. RP slightly edges out HS in income (PCI by 2.5k and MHI by 5.5k), although HS has higher medium home values.

See... I knew I wasen't crazy. Bohemia outdoes RP in nearly every category.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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$40k per capita was introduced above me in the thread, I was just referring to that... I personally would consider HHI and to that point MP being $106k median would not be upper to me.
I personally would not consider Miller Place and many of the other Suffolk communities discussed in this thread to be upper-middle-class communities either when compared with Nassau, Western Suffolk, and the East End. I suppose mid-Suffolk should be held to a different metric though.

Looking at the Town of Huntington, I would say most people consider Huntington proper to be middle-class, areas like West Hills to be somewhat upper-middle, CSH to be upper-middle to wealthy, and Lloyd Harbor to be wealthy.

Comparatively, the middle-class Huntington CDP comfortable beats Miller Place in per capita income ($55,975 to $40,604 ), median household income ($110,988 to $107,774), and average home value ($631,700 to $467,500). West Hills (which is a pretty laid-back, casual, unpretentious community) blows MP out of the water. There is really no comparison between MP with CSH and Lloyd Harbor (whose numbers, for some reason, are not available on the census website).

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Miller Place

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $467,500 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 4,047 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 3.04 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $40,604 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $107,774 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 1.1% 14.2%

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Huntington CDP

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $631,700 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 7,032 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 2.64 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $55,975 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $110,988 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 3.2% 14.2%

West Hills CDP

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $619,300 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 1,980 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 2.69 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $57,678 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $122,560 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 2.4% 14.2%

Cold Spring Harbor CDP

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2006-2010 $827,100 $303,900
Households, 2006-2010 1,668 7,205,740
Persons per household, 2006-2010 2.97 2.59
Per capita money income in past 12 months (2010 dollars) 2006-2010 $63,436 $30,948
Median household income 2006-2010 $134,821 $55,603
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2006-2010 2.5% 14.2%
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:52 PM
 
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See... I knew I wasen't crazy. Bohemia outdoes RP in nearly every category.

I stand corrected so are we now suggesting that Bohemia is Upper Middle Class?

I dont see it.

Crooks
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