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Ha hahah. Yeah those "conservatives" in ToH that "suggest" every employee join the local republican committee or find themselves less than welcome on the job are MUCH better. Plenty of "cons" getting big time union contributions. Takes two parties to tango. I see so many "conservative" union members standing up for their right to opt out! Oh yeah! Only liberals have union gigs! Puh-leeeze. That whole lib vs con thing is so mid-90's talk radio. Time to let childish things go and deal in individual realities and not tired media coined tag phrases. That's how the "cons" lost the election.
I recall there was a time when TOH required each employee to donate a portion of their salary to the republican party, some employees relented, were fired and event won the lawsuit. Same system today but more subtle.
I don't believe that public workers in NYS are required to join a union, they may be representated by one but not a member.
I believe they are, if the outfit is a 'union shop' or 'closed shop.' An employee must join the union, or pay agency fees to the union, which basically means you dont have to be a member, but because the union bargains on your behalf you have to pay the fees related to that bargaining. The difference between an agency fee and union member dues is so minimal.
The essential principle behind right-to-work legislation should not get lost in the shuffle: No one should be forced to join a union against his or her will. It is antithetical to a free people to have the state invest unions with the power to collude on labor costs and take union dues against employees’ will. Liberals are in favor of forcing employees to join a union; conservatives are in favor of allowing employees to choose not to and to protect employees’ property rights against compulsory dues deduction.
Nonsense. Unions are nothing more than employees all going to management at once and demanding more money and better treatment. The employers then either sign a legally binding contract with the union, or they fire everyone and start over (Walmart does the latter). That contract is the only thing "forcing" anyone to do anything, and it was entered into by the employer after bargaining with the employees. "Right to work" just means new employees aren't be bound by that contract (it also does assorted union-busting stuff like preventing unions from automatically deducting dues from your paycheck).
In any event, if your workplace is unionized, there is no reason why you would not want to join. Unionized wokers make far better salaries, earn benefits, receive health insurance, etc. Literally no one would prefer to work in a country like China or India where there are no unions compared to a country like Germany or France where unions are strong.
Right-to-work only benefits employers who want to pay employees less. Unfortunately, our outmoded system of states competing against one another with how pro-employer they can be results in workers getting the shaft. Yes, new factories are opening down south where right-to-work has thrived, but the wages paid to those employees are far below union wages and difficult to support yourself on, to say nothing of facilitating entry into the middle class like union work used to do.
This is not the 1970s. Union membership and strength, and, not surprisingly, wages and benefits for workers, is at an all-time low. We should be supporting MORE power for unions, not less. But I guess it's easier to take things away from those doing better than fight for those things for yourself.
Unions are the most corrupt organizations in this country. When are the union rank and file going to rise up against the theives that steal their pension funds, divert money to their own families and do nothing to protect them....oh wait, rise up?..they usually just re-elect them to their posts.
Unions are the most corrupt organizations in this country. When are the union rank and file going to rise up against the theives that steal their pension funds, divert money to their own families and do nothing to protect them....oh wait, rise up?..they usually just re-elect them to their posts.
Nonsense. Unions are nothing more than employees all going to management at once and demanding more money and better treatment. The employers then either sign a legally binding contract with the union, or they fire everyone and start over (Walmart does the latter). That contract is the only thing "forcing" anyone to do anything, and it was entered into by the employer after bargaining with the employees. "Right to work" just means new employees aren't be bound by that contract (it also does assorted union-busting stuff like preventing unions from automatically deducting dues from your paycheck).
In any event, if your workplace is unionized, there is no reason why you would not want to join. Unionized wokers make far better salaries, earn benefits, receive health insurance, etc. Literally no one would prefer to work in a country like China or India where there are no unions compared to a country like Germany or France where unions are strong.
Right-to-work only benefits employers who want to pay employees less. Unfortunately, our outmoded system of states competing against one another with how pro-employer they can be results in workers getting the shaft. Yes, new factories are opening down south where right-to-work has thrived, but the wages paid to those employees are far below union wages and difficult to support yourself on, to say nothing of facilitating entry into the middle class like union work used to do.
This is not the 1970s. Union membership and strength, and, not surprisingly, wages and benefits for workers, is at an all-time low. We should be supporting MORE power for unions, not less. But I guess it's easier to take things away from those doing better than fight for those things for yourself.
Oh well since you've decided people's minds for them already..
Also there is no reason why people should not want guns and no reason why people should not want etc.
It would never happen....NYS would be the last state in the union to become a "right to work" state.
Years ago I would have said the same about Michigan (a major union stronghold, birthplace of the UAW etc.), and now they are right to work. If it could happen there, it could happen anywhere which is why unions accross the country are freaking out.
Im curious though, does anyone know if the "right to work" in Mich only applies to private union employees? Or public as well? It almost seemed to me that public employee unions may be exempted from what I read.
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