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Old 05-14-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Plainview is heavily Jewish, but tends to be quite secular. There are certainly more observant Jews there as well, but its nothing like Kayfouroh described.
I never said it was.

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I'm not sure how heavily Jewish Plainview is
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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The school district still performs well.
The one they are in control of, Lawrence, is indeed performing below par, especially considering how it used to be.

Maybe you are thinking of Hewlett. That's a different story. Orthodox Jews who don't send their kids to public schools do not control the school board there.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, FL
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The one they are in control of, Lawrence, is indeed performing below par, especially considering how it used to be.

Maybe you are thinking of Hewlett. That's a different story. Orthodox Jews who don't send their kids to public schools do not control the school board there.
Yeah I was. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:35 PM
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The one they are in control of, Lawrence, is indeed performing below par, especially considering how it used to be.

Maybe you are thinking of Hewlett. That's a different story. Orthodox Jews who don't send their kids to public schools do not control the school board there.
So, sounds like anyone not an OJ shouldn't live in the Lawrence SD if they don't care for living under the OJ community norms. As a secular Jew myself, once informed I wouldn't even think of living there now.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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So, sounds like anyone not an OJ shouldn't live in the Lawrence SD if they don't care for living under the OJ community norms. As a secular Jew myself, once informed I wouldn't even think of living there now.
People pick on K40 for complaining about living in that general area, but he's doing a public service to the unwary who may end up there and be unpleasantly surprised.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:48 PM
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I'm probably going to be called a bigot but I am just out of a highly Jewish area and you are right -- you will be the "other" people in the area.
For the Op, this is completely inaccurate. In Plainview and throughout the rest of LI, secular Jews are a minority, period. They don't try to convert you, and they're friendly neighbors in general. This 5T example given refers only to a unique enclave of OJ, not secular Jews, and they are simply not the same people.

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People pick on K40 for complaining about living in that general area, but he's doing a public service to the unwary who may end up there and be unpleasantly surprised.
Again, it's a disservice to generalize and confuse OJ norms with those of secular Jews, apples and oranges. How could anyone just end up there or elsewhere. Like the OP is doing with Plainview, anyone with grey matter researches out a target area before committing.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I never said it was.
Should have phrased it better. Not all heavily Jewish neighborhoods are the same, what you experienced in Lawrence is far different from what you would have experienced in other heavily Jewish areas such as Plainview, or Jericho, Woodbury, Roslyn, etc.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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People pick on K40 for complaining about living in that general area, but he's doing a public service to the unwary who may end up there and be unpleasantly surprised.
K40 intentional or not made it seem like all heavily Jewish areas are similar to what he experienced in Lawrence. That is certainly not the case. Lawrence has a large ultra Orthodox population and it has a large influence on the community, you just don't see that in other heavily Jewish areas of LI.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:27 AM
 
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There is more to the story here regarding Lawrence UFSD that usually gets left out. Originally, the area consisted of less observant Jews, Italians, African-Americans, and Hispanics. African-Americans have been living in Inwood since pre-WWII. The Orthodox started to buy homes from the less observant Jews and to some extent from the Italians. As previously mentioned, they send their children to private schools and not to the public schools. With the decrease in secular Jewish and Italian children, not only did the school district shrink, but what remained were the African-American and Hispanic children, who are now the majority. This is the other part of the bigotry when people criticize Lawrence UFSD and its decline in repuation. If the same conditions happened to neighboring predominantly white Hewlett-Woodmere where there was an increase in the Orthodox Jewish population buying out the homes and sending their children to private schools, the district would probably close its doors as there would not be enough Asian and African-American children left to support it.
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, FL
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I'm probably going to be called a bigot but I am just out of a highly Jewish area and you are right -- you will be the "other" people in the area. I'm not sure how heavily Jewish Plainview is, but down in the 5T, my wife and I were definitely out of place. They talk and talk about making the community better, but when you actually look into it... they are talking about THEIR community, not EVERYONE'S community.

They came in and destroyed the school board, created their own "Jewish services" (private library, private schools, private EMT services... even their own private roadside assistance program). Blocking roads on the Sabbath and refusing to move. Hosting private religious services in public schools. Taking private residences off the tax rolls by converting them to "houses of worship" (bath houses, etc.)

Now, who am I to say one way or another how people are to live? I don't care, but facts are facts. If it is anything like the 5T, it will be a nightmare. My wife and I are glad to be gone.
I just realized, if the services are after school, they do a church service at a local elementary school here, as well as an after school program. Plus this town (if this is even true) is an extreme case, that would never fly in Plainview.
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