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Originally Posted by Lucky Duckie
There are competitve school districts everywhere, but Long Island has a lot more than average. Schools in states like Florida, Texas, and California don't hold a candle to Long Island schools. A lot of students who go to Long Island schools end up in Ivy League and other top colleges like Georgetown, Duke, Rice, NYU, Colgate and get competitive, prestigous jobs in business, medicine, and law. You don't see this as much in other parts of the country.
Your right only your kids have the advantage....
And more graduates than you realise attend state schools both in/out of state and have satisfactory jobs if they apply themselves. Read the hundreds of posts on the LI board and see how many schools are viewed as average, mediocre, sub-par. Yes there are many good districts but having parents who are involved with their childrens education is far more valuable than a than a districts SAT scores....
And more graduates than you realise attend state schools both in/out of state and have satisfactory jobs if they apply themselves. Read the hundreds of posts on the LI board and see how many schools are viewed as average, mediocre, sub-par. Yes there are many good districts but having parents who are involved with their childrens education is far more valuable than a than a districts SAT scores....
The parents whose children attend the top school districts on Long Island are too busy working in their prestigious, professional careers to be that involved in their children's education. The teachers and tutors are the ones that bring out the best in the children.
There are 4 types of people in this world. The brightest and most ambitious become CEOs, NGOs, managers, very successful business owners, doctors, dentists, pharmacists, lawyers, actuaries, big four CPAs, PhD college professors and researchers, or find their career on Wall Street, Silicon Valley, or the petroleum industry. The most talented with unique skills become professional athletes, artists, and entertainers. The ones that want to help but know they won't become millionaires are teachers, nurses, therapists, social workers, police, firefighters, paramedics, military, government workers, and tradesmen. Then there's the rest who get a college degree but aren't career ambitious, these are the ones that tend complain about every one else's salary.
Nope but you may hear 6-1/2 before you hear 8. Total up the days off ,what do you get?
Teachers are no different from most salaried exempt workers who work more than 40 hour work weeks .
Count the bath room breaks and sick days and you'll be up to 11 months off for the 10-month employee teachers. What about those 3 minutes between classes? Gotta be a week there. And my daughter's teacher sneezed once. What did that cost us in taxes - you can't work when you are sneezing. And some teachers sneeze a real lot. I saw four of them sneeze coming out of our elementary school last week. Golly, this is fun.
Not a justification at all. I do find that many teacher salary complaints come from a place of jealousy, so I feel it's a somewhat appropriate response.
Yes, but it's usually best just let people rant (and note the poor punctuation and spelling).
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Originally Posted by Lucky Duckie
The parents whose children attend the top school districts on Long Island are too busy working in their prestigious, professional careers to be that involved in their children's education. The teachers and tutors are the ones that bring out the best in the children.
There are 4 types of people in this world. The brightest and most ambitious become CEOs, NGOs, managers, very successful business owners, doctors, dentists, pharmacists, lawyers, actuaries, big four CPAs, PhD college professors and researchers, or find their career on Wall Street, Silicon Valley, or the petroleum industry. The most talented with unique skills become professional athletes, artists, and entertainers. The ones that want to help but know they won't become millionaires are teachers, nurses, therapists, social workers, police, firefighters, paramedics, military, government workers, and tradesmen. Then there's the rest who get a college degree but aren't career ambitious, these are the ones that tend complain about every one else's salary.
Such pearls of wisdom, you must be a product of a superior LI school district. There is a 5th type of person, one who believes the world revolves around them and pays any price because they are worth it and it is a reflection of their importance.....
And more graduates than you realise attend state schools both in/out of state and have satisfactory jobs if they apply themselves. Read the hundreds of posts on the LI board and see how many schools are viewed as average, mediocre, sub-par. Yes there are many good districts but having parents who are involved with their childrens education is far more valuable than a than a districts SAT scores....
Well said. What a ridiculous blanket statement by Ducky. Suuuure, most LI students go on to Ivy League schools and on to prestigious careers, while everyone else from other states go on to work at McDonalds.
According to the media teachers, police, federal and state government, medical industry, pharmaceutical industry, college professors/administration, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, petroleum industry, entertainment industry, and CEOs are all overpaid. Yet Walmart and McDonald's workers are underpaid go figure.
People complaining about what others make is jealously and entitlement no matter what they say. Too many Americans have become so lazy now days they want free medical. They want the best civil workers but don't want to pay a dime in taxes. They think the corporate management has the right to provide them benefits, vacation days, and pay raises. They want this free medical, low taxes, and welfare from corporations so they can buy smartphones, flat screen TV, new cars, overseas vacations, and expand their houses.
The people who whine about others salaries have an overgross sense of entitlement. Most of them don't have masters or doctorate degrees and don't have the motivation or brains to work on Wall Street, Silicon Valley, petroleum industry, or the talent to open their own successful business. No wonder why everything is being outsourced and foreign workers are being hired now days because those workers don't have a sense entitlement and high pay unlike most average joe Americans.
Yes nothing short of pure jealousy, it couldn't possibly be the tax bill that is coming due. A sensible company would understand that when they need to borrow money to cover their employees pensions it just might be time for a complete freeze, but in most districts its business as usual.
One hope in containing school taxes is believe it or not: Obamacare. In 2018 a 45% tax on insurance companies writing "Cadillac" health plans costing over 25K a year starts. That is what the teachers get. Hopefully the insurance companies stop writing these expensive policies and replace them with the ones written for Obamacare: 4 to 6K deductible. Policies cost less, more savings to tax payers and less negotiation power for teachers in that only off the less costly higher deductible policies will be available.
Maybe it is a pipe dream, but wouldn't it so deliciously ironic that the group that fought so hard for Obama and Obamacare are one of its victims?
The parents whose children attend the top school districts on Long Island are too busy working in their prestigious, professional careers to be that involved in their children's education. The teachers and tutors are the ones that bring out the best in the children.
There are 4 types of people in this world. The brightest and most ambitious become CEOs, NGOs, managers, very successful business owners, doctors, dentists, pharmacists, lawyers, actuaries, big four CPAs, PhD college professors and researchers, or find their career on Wall Street, Silicon Valley, or the petroleum industry. The most talented with unique skills become professional athletes, artists, and entertainers. The ones that want to help but know they won't become millionaires are teachers, nurses, therapists, social workers, police, firefighters, paramedics, military, government workers, and tradesmen. Then there's the rest who get a college degree but aren't career ambitious, these are the ones that tend complain about every one else's salary.
If the bolded part were true then Syosset would be on equal footing with Roosevelt, but that's not quite the case is it? Students with two parents that have a college education bring out the best in students.
Anyone who criticizes a broken teaching system that has built in structural failure that is based on rewarding teachers more than educating students.
You missed one, the 5th type of person is a public employee who has everything to gain and nothing to lose and views any challenge to an obviously failed system as complaining.
Well said. What a ridiculous blanket statement by Ducky. Suuuure, most LI students go on to Ivy League schools and on to prestigious careers, while everyone else from other states go on to work at McDonalds.
At least in other states they aren't living in mom and dad's basement till they're 30. I live in a neighborhood built 18 years ago, so there are a lot of people here with recent college grads - I don't know anyone who has a college grad living at home. Come to think of it, I don't know anyone whose college grad moved back home after college, period. What's more, they were not raised with the mentality that they must live within 10 geographical miles of the house they grew up in or they'll turn to dust.
I just checked the school taxes on my old house and they have gone up $3,000 since we moved. There is no way that can be called anything but insane.
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