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View Poll Results: Re-open the Central RR?
Yes, do it...turn the Lighthouse into a transit hub 8 88.89%
No thanks, I'll live with the traffic 0 0%
I'm undecided or I have no clue what this is about 1 11.11%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-19-2007, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Wellsville, Glurt County
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I was gonna post this in the "major projects" thread, but I wanted to make it a poll. In case you're unaware, the first steps have been taken to redevelop the Nassau Coliseum property including a mixed use 30 story skyscraper. You can read more about it here:

Major Projects on LI

There's no question that this is gonna create major traffic problems on the Meadowbrook Parkway and Hempstead Turnpike, which are already parking lots at rush hour. It would be very difficult to expand either and would have to be done through eminent domain - causing the destruction of many residential and commercial areas, including EAB Plaza (which RexCorp now owns). Currently, the closest railroad stations are in Garden City and Carle Place - neither of which are walking distance, although I think there are bus connections to the coliseum area.

However, there is a little known railroad easement that runs through the entirety of Nassau County, meeting up with the LIRR Ronkonkoma and Montauk Branches in Bethpage. Formerly the Central Railroad, last used way back in the early part of the 20th Century and currently occupied by nothing but electrical wires. The western end is still used once a year for the circus trains, it ends at NCC. The eastern end now connects Babylon to the main line. If we are to believe that a serious number of jobs are coming into the area, reopening the line would allow commuters in Suffolk to reach the Lighthouse very quickly and directly - as well as NCC, Hofstra, the museums, Roosevelt Field Mall/The Source and downtown Garden City. I realize a lot of people hate trains, and I personally like my car too, but I think this would go a long way to defer traffic in the area.

The big problem with doing this is that the train line would run straight through Eisenhower Park and residential areas in Levittown & Bethpage. I can't even imagine how pissed people in those areas would be...so this is probably a pipe dream unless they find some way to build subways on LI....or above-ground tunnels!

Would you support it though?
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:51 AM
 
Location: The Bronx
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Oh, the caterwauling would be intense and extreme...

How about an extra "I want to pretend like it's 1963 and who cares if there are any new jobs here" NIMBY TAX.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Mattituck
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Oh, the caterwauling would be intense and extreme...

How about an extra "I want to pretend like it's 1963 and who cares if there are any new jobs here" NIMBY TAX.
All these new people are not needed in Nassau County let them stay in the city where there jobs are.
This lighthouse (if it passes) will be all nonsense crap paying retail jobs, dont need another China Town.
I think the devoloper is building the retail for HIS PEOPLE
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:19 AM
 
Location: East Northport
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I think it's a great idea, Sean.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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All these new people are not needed in Nassau County let them stay in the city where there jobs are.
This lighthouse (if it passes) will be all nonsense crap paying retail jobs, dont need another China Town.
I think the devoloper is building the retail for HIS PEOPLE
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Would his people be those in Brooklyn, Queens, Shanghai or LI?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:37 PM
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I recall traveling on this line from Penn to Babylon in the mid 1980's, on the mid-day express train -- a diesel. I recall that I was very surprised to see it the first time. It was very, very quick, I can tell you. I do not know if this track was used for any other train. Does anyone know when the LIRR stopped using this track on a daily basis?
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Mattituck
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There is an old ROW that was used for the Vanderbuilt Motor Parkway that extends from Queens to Uniondale and all the way east.
Its currently used by LIPA.
They could put quiet electric monorails. The MTA-LIRR should not be trusted with anything.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Mattituck
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Would his people be those in Brooklyn, Queens, Shanghai or LI?
All of the above new people who move to Long Island, drive prices up then dictate and preach how we Islanders should live.
Everthing was fine till these people came to Nassau County and started banging there fists, putting in Democrat polititions, flooding the schools
----agitator trouble makers.

People born here are being treated and ravaged like the native Indians
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Wellsville, Glurt County
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I recall traveling on this line from Penn to Babylon in the mid 1980's, on the mid-day express train -- a diesel. I recall that I was very surprised to see it the first time. It was very, very quick, I can tell you. I do not know if this track was used for any other train. Does anyone know when the LIRR stopped using this track on a daily basis?
That section of the Central RR is still there and still in use, it allows Babylon-bound trains to bypass the south shore stops on the Montauk Branch and meet up with the Main Line at Hicksville. Much quicker since there's no stations - and there haven't been any on that section for a long, long time...probably since before WWII. If you look on Google Earth or one of those satellite image programs you can easily trace the vacant section through Nassau County. An express train from Babylon to the Lighthouse in this fake scenario would probably be a 15 minute ride at most.

Joe L - The Motor Parkway RoW has been built on in most places, but it runs parallel to the Central RR one in most spots through Nassau, you might be confusing the two of them. Separately (and as usual), your racist take on a situation where it isn't warranted is just as obnoxious as it is absurd. None of us gained some mythical birthright by being born on this island, anyone of any color or background is allowed to come here and "do just fine" for themselves.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:16 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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I recall traveling on this line from Penn to Babylon in the mid 1980's, on the mid-day express train -- a diesel. I recall that I was very surprised to see it the first time. It was very, very quick, I can tell you. I do not know if this track was used for any other train. Does anyone know when the LIRR stopped using this track on a daily basis

This (slanted) line runs in the evening. I know because as a teacher I catch it when we have Open School Nights. It is a great train & gets me home to Babylon in fifty five minutes. I wish they would use it more often. Maybe it interferes with the regular straight line routes.
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