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Old 11-18-2013, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Once again, I was on the phone and I deserve the ticket. I am not arguing that. What would be fair is that I pay the $180 original fine even after they knock it down to a $75 parking ticket for having a clean license for 20 years. The criminal part is when they charge $450 for that $75 parking ticket just to avoid the points. If I paid the ticket, they would have $180. They could have taken the same $180 for a parking ticket. They lose nothing from the original fine. It is as if they are extorting the additional $270 just so that I don't get away with not getting any points. And like I said, others were let go without any fine for first time cell phone tickets. I heard them. They were as guilty as me. They walk away Scott free and I get heavily fined. I was as nice and courteous as you could be in the courtroom. I didn't question anything. I just thanked them and paid. But I felt completely ripped off. It was legalized extortion. That is the only way I could describe it.

Was your summons for parking or using a cell while driving? Seeing as you were talking on a cell while driving, the fee for a parking ticket is irrelevant. You plead down from a moving to a non moving violation.. Seeing they have to charge you with something for the records, it is probably safe to assume that all pleading down from a using cell phone while driving charge are given parking as their offense.

While you could have paid the $180 avoided the court, received points on your license and learned a costly lesson, you opted to take a gamble and head to court. It stinks, but it is what it is with regard to what the others in the court room experienced as opposed to you.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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It is dumb, regardless of the offense, when they're 'doing you a favor' it shouldt cost more than the original penalty.
Article in Newsday today about people still being charged the administrative fee when their tickets are dismissed. Bogus.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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It costs money to operate the courts. That has to be made up somewhere. The taxpayers shouldn't be footing the entire bill for those who try to plea down. The $270 is overhead.
I call BS.

The taxpayers (us) already foot the bill to operate the courts, DMV, and police. They're already paid quite well. The idea that we should have to pay them surcharges and adminsitrative fees for doing their (already paid for) job is insanity. If that was the case, remove them from line items on the general budget, and let them survive only on these fees.

Its just a cash source for other holes in the state/county budgets.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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I call BS.

The taxpayers (us) already foot the bill to operate the courts, DMV, and police. They're already paid quite well. The idea that we should have to pay them surcharges and adminsitrative fees for doing their (already paid for) job is insanity. If that was the case, remove them from line items on the general budget, and let them survive only on these fees.

Its just a cash source for other holes in the state/county budgets.
It's a stupid tax that holier than thou types think is fine, because surely everyone who goes to traffic court is guilty and deserves to be punished, right?
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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What a moronic thing to say. I don't have to answer her call. She almost never calls me. She was calling to make sure I was on time so she could go to work. That is what I wrote in my first post. I had been a bit late at times and she wanted to know if I was going to be on time so she could call to let her job know she may be late. We had a 2 and 4 year old at the time. How do I know it wasn't an emergency? She had every right to call. I didn't have to answer. I just thought I should. For. Woman, you sound like a winner. You are so wonderful and other women "harass" their husbands. I guess you never, ever called your husband on the cell before in your life. Read your post again and look how foolish you look you are just a troll looking to argue. Give your husband my condolences.
Sorry, I was wrong about her! It's you that is the problem, having a habit of being late which forces her to check up on you. IF you read my post in the first place, I did give that possibility and said quite clearly she was being a ballbuster UNLESS that was the case ... so what are you writing this long complaining post at me for since it is YOU who is the problem and your habit of being late which caused the phone call which caused your own ticket?

See the very beginning of my post once again, blindo:

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Tell your wife to stop breaking your balls. Exception: Unless you were indeed in the timeframe where she was going to HAVE TO call her job and say she was going to be late, then it's your fault.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Once again, I was on the phone and I deserve the ticket. I am not arguing that. What would be fair is that I pay the $180 original fine even after they knock it down to a $75 parking ticket for having a clean license for 20 years. The criminal part is when they charge $450 for that $75 parking ticket just to avoid the points. If I paid the ticket, they would have $180. They could have taken the same $180 for a parking ticket. They lose nothing from the original fine. It is as if they are extorting the additional $270 just so that I don't get away with not getting any points. And like I said, others were let go without any fine for first time cell phone tickets. I heard them. They were as guilty as me. They walk away Scott free and I get heavily fined. I was as nice and courteous as you could be in the courtroom. I didn't question anything. I just thanked them and paid. But I felt completely ripped off. It was legalized extortion. That is the only way I could describe it.
You are right about this. It is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, especially when the court could see you are not an experienced person in their court since you have a clean license for 20 years. It's a lesson for those of us (me too) who think our clean record would "save us" on a first offense ... maybe not, maybe they will take advantage of us as not knowing the system if we don't have an attorney present. I suppose if you would have come there with an attorney familiar with their court, they would have not dared to charge you such a high parking ticket fee, but you would have had to pay an attorney, which could have ended up costing more in the end. (I don't know, though, how much the traffic attorneys charge for appearances.)

As for you seeing others getting away with it scott free ... did they have attorneys? Could you figure out how that happened? I would think Suffolk would want to fine everyone and get as much money as possible each day.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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take a 6 hour online defensive driving course. it will save u the points for the next time.
I heard you have to take that AFTER you get points. It will not prevent points. And you can only take it a within a certain interval of time. So if you take it right before you get a load of points, you are going to have to wait a while before you can take it again.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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The Expert has so Spoken again.......
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Old 11-18-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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take a 6 hour online defensive driving course. it will save u the points for the next time.
I already have the 6 hr defensive driver course. That just saves 10 pecent on liability and collision coverage. Insurance points are different than DMV points.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I was on speakerphone. It wasn't on my ear. It is still considered being on the phone.
You're saying you still held it up high enough for the cop to see? Defeats the purpose.
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