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Old 02-01-2014, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Westbury,NY
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Hey where's Westbury in that list? I'd probably put it in the lower middle to middle class towns..
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:52 PM
 
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Westbury has a large range so I left it out.

I would say it ranges from lower working class all the way to upper middle class. I personally know of a lot of well-to-do single professionals who live in westbury and I know some parts off Jericho Tpke are well-off also.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:52 AM
 
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I would say Cold Spring Harbor should be in the 'upper middle class to rich' category. The vast majority of people who live there are solidly upper middle class.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:59 AM
 
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Westbury has a large range so I left it out.

I would say it ranges from lower working class all the way to upper middle class. I personally know of a lot of well-to-do single professionals who live in westbury and I know some parts off Jericho Tpke are well-off also.
Melville is another town that's impossible to classify because of the large range- parts are lower middle class to middle class and parts (esp in the HHH district) are wealthy upper middle class to rich.
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Old 02-02-2014, 06:08 AM
 
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Melville is another town that's impossible to classify because of the large range- parts are lower middle class to middle class and parts (esp in the HHH district) are wealthy upper middle class to rich.
I definitely agree.

At first, I was thinking about classifying it alongside Dix Hills but there are definitely a lot of avg middle class neighborhoods in Melville. Melville generally ranges from middle-middle class to straight-up rich. Also, I know there was a housing lottery in Melville not that many years ago that increased the amount of working class families. I forgot where exactly that condo/apartment complex was, I think it was north of the LIE somewhere.

I didn't classify Westbury, Amityville Village, Central Islip, West Islip and Bellport Village for similar reasons. They have a lot of income-diversity, but not ALL across the board like Bay Shore, Glen Cove and Huntington Station. When I really think about it, I regret classifying Freeport as well since there are some well-to-do parts of it...

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Old 02-02-2014, 06:10 AM
 
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I definitely agree.

At first, I was thinking about classifying it alongside Dix Hills but there are definitely a lot of middle-of-road avg middle class neighborhoods in Melville.

Melville generally ranges from middle-middle class to straight-up rich. Also, I know there was a housing lottery in Melville not that many years ago that increased the amount of working class families. I forgot where exactly that condo complex was, It was north of the LIE somewhere.
I just want to say I like your moniker
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Old 02-02-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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I would say Cold Spring Harbor should be in the 'upper middle class to rich' category. The vast majority of people who live there are solidly upper middle class.
I would keep CSH lumped in with the rich grouping - essentially all homes on the market now are 1M with many much much higher (this is not to say every single person is rich, nor that CSH was this affluent 20-30 years ago, nor to say an occasional 800K fixer-upper (!) does not occasionally hit the market.) I'd do the same with Laurel Hollow - with the same caveats. Neither one has the wealth of Lloyd Harbor but that does not exclude them from the top category. (Nitpicker alert: Of course some LH and CSH residents are weathier than Lloyd Harbor residents.)

Of course estate-laden places like Lattington, Matinecock, Mill Neck, Kings Point, and Center Island might be in a rich+ category of their own.

Southampton is problematic... many (most?) year round residents are middle class with some below.

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Old 02-02-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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I would say Cold Spring Harbor should be in the 'upper middle class to rich' category. The vast majority of people who live there are solidly upper middle class.
Agreed. Overwhelmingly, most CSH households are upper middle class professional class - dependent on their jobs to maintain their lifestyle, and in many cases survival. If you live in CSH, you know that the truly "rich" people live in Lloyd Harbor and Laurel Hollow.

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I would keep CSH lumped in with the rich grouping - essentially all homes on the market now are 1M with many much much higher (this is not to say every single person is rich, nor that CSH was this affluent 20-30 years ago, nor to say an occasional 800K fixer-upper (!) does not occasionally hit the market.) I'd do the same with Laurel Hollow - with the same caveats. Neither one has the wealth of Lloyd Harbor but that does not exclude them from the top category. (Nitpicker alert: Of course some LH and CSH residents are weathier than Lloyd Harbor residents.)

Of course estate-laden places like Lattington, Matinecock, Mill Neck, Kings Point, and Center Island might be in a rich+ category of their own.

Southampton is problematic... many (most?) year round residents are middle class with some below.
According to the 2012 Census survey, the median home value in CSH is 775,900, that means more than half the houses in CSH are valued well under 1m.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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Agreed. Overwhelmingly, most CSH households are upper middle class professional class - dependent on their jobs to maintain their lifestyle, and in many cases survival. If you live in CSH, you know that the truly "rich" people live in Lloyd Harbor and Laurel Hollow.

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I would keep CSH lumped in with the rich grouping - essentially all homes on the market now are 1M with many much much higher (this is not to say every single person is rich, nor that CSH was this affluent 20-30 years ago, nor to say an occasional 800K fixer-upper (!) does not occasionally hit the market.) I'd do the same with Laurel Hollow - with the same caveats. Neither one has the wealth of Lloyd Harbor but that does not exclude them from the top category. (Nitpicker alert: Of course some LH and CSH residents are weathier than Lloyd Harbor residents.)

Of course estate-laden places like Lattington, Matinecock, Mill Neck, Kings Point, and Center Island might be in a rich+ category of their own.

Southampton is problematic... many (most?) year round residents are middle class with some below.



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According to the 2012 Census survey, the median home value in CSH is 775,900, that means more than half the houses in CSH are valued well under 1m.
Great point. Although not at all related to my point. See bold print.

It is also certainly true that some residents of CSH may think of Laurel Hollow and Lloyd Harbor as wealthier.

Nevertheless, I agree with Prestigious Reputability on his CSH call. (and respectfully disagree on his Centre Island call)

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Old 02-02-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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Agreed. Overwhelmingly, most CSH households are upper middle class professional class - dependent on their jobs to maintain their lifestyle, and in many cases survival. If you live in CSH, you know that the truly "rich" people live in Lloyd Harbor and Laurel Hollow.



According to the 2012 Census survey, the median home value in CSH is 775,900, that means more than half the houses in CSH are valued well under 1m.
Agreed- and being able to afford a $1mil house doesn't in & of itself make someone rich- that is a reasonable price range for many upper middle class families, especially with such low interest rates. And you're right- overall lifestyle- ie, not being dependent on a job for your income- is a better indicator of wealth than house price & in CSH an overwhelming number of families are working professionals who stretch to live there for the schools.
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