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Old 12-09-2007, 01:38 AM
 
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As soon as we live in a socialist society I guess.
As soon as taxes are distributed differently.
High taxed hoods go to the neighborhoods they're paid into.
In a socialist society supposedly everything is equal.
I'm totally not understanding you at all.
Thats just how it is in AMERICA!
The money that goes into the community, individual towns.. result in what that neighborhood has advantages to. Am I missing something about that?

I think your asking a whole different question than what those articles are about. You seem to be objecting to spending the tax money that comes from these individual towns to go back into the same towns. You want the monies equally divided through out Long Island schools. Shipping kids to other areas is one way I supose but if you're going to do that than why not simplify it and just spend the tax money equally around the country? But thats a completely different discussion.

Don't evade the question: Are you ready to integrate Cold Spring Harbor School District?
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:27 AM
 
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Don't evade the question: Are you ready to integrate Cold Spring Harbor School District?
Private schools are better integrated than are gov't schools, so the answer to your question would be to eliminate all gov't school districts and only have private schools (the private schools would have the option, but not the requirement, of purchasing the assets, including the buildings, of the gov't schools).
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:18 AM
 
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Private schools are better integrated than are gov't schools, so the answer to your question would be to eliminate all gov't school districts and only have private schools (the private schools would have the option, but not the requirement, of purchasing the assets, including the buildings, of the gov't schools).
The Question was simple. I will repeat it again. It is a yes or no question.

Are you ready to integrate Cold Spring Harbor School District?
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:38 AM
 
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The Question was simple. I will repeat it again. It is a yes or no question.

Are you ready to integrate Cold Spring Harbor School District?

And, I believe, my answer was on point: yes, you would do so by eliminating all gov't school districts, such as the Cold Spring Harbor Central School District, knowing that private schools are much better integrated than are gov't schools.

Gov't schools are a function of their fixed, and very difficult to modify, district borders, and hence much easier to have a segregated population, than are private schools, which have no geographic borders, and are much better integrated.

So, to return the question into your court, are you ready to eliminate all gov't school districts?
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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Don't evade the question: Are you ready to integrate Cold Spring Harbor School District?
I have absolutly no problem with that!!!
And you previously said to write my congressman or senator or some such rubbish like that?
Yeh...like thats going to do something.
Theres a lot of armchair warriors sitting behind their puters spoutin' nothing but words.
Let me ask YOU something now.
What have YOU done to change anything in the education system other than talk and complain?
In case you haven't read what I'd done go back and look or I'd be happy to find my post and lead you to it.
I spent over ten years of my own time making ZERO money running an alternative school for kids in westbury/New Castle because I hated how the schools were run back then. We had every denomination kid of all ages in The Learning Tree Free School all of which graducated and went on and did real well in their lives because of The Tree. We ran it on a sliding scale. We charged only what the parents could afford, some paid nothing but donated their time..basically it was run on donations. A not for profit.
I didn't need to write my congressman or senetor because ACTION speaks louder than words. Words usually get you NO WHERE!!
So tell me..what have you done to better society for children besides write on your computer and complain.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:33 PM
 
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For those that may not be aware, the Wheatley School (grade 8 through grade 12) is in the East Williston Union Free School District.

The Village of Old Westbury is partly in the East Williston Union Free School District, the Westbury Union Free School District and the Jericho Union Free School District.
The school has amazing resources though.

Those kids certainly should be doing very well.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:09 PM
 
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Default Do you mean vouchers? - please clarify.

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And, I believe, my answer was on point: yes, you would do so by eliminating all gov't school districts, such as the Cold Spring Harbor Central School District, knowing that private schools are much better integrated than are gov't schools.

Gov't schools are a function of their fixed, and very difficult to modify, district borders, and hence much easier to have a segregated population, than are private schools, which have no geographic borders, and are much better integrated.

So, to return the question into your court, are you ready to eliminate all gov't school districts?
YES. I would go so far as to repeal some of the compulsory education laws for teenagers, but that is for another thread.

I guess you are in favor of vouchers?

I think an open market for education would be the best solution to many of the current inequities in education. Give each child a voucher and let them and their parents decide where to go to school. The vouchers should be funded by the county (Nassau or Suffolk) based on a progressive income tax.

The public schools and the private schools would be forced to compete for students. The weaker schools, probably mostly the public ones, would go under.

I personally would love to have this system.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:14 PM
 
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I have absolutly no problem with that!!!
And you previously said to write my congressman or senator or some such rubbish like that?
Yeh...like thats going to do something.
Theres a lot of armchair warriors sitting behind their puters spoutin' nothing but words.
Let me ask YOU something now.
What have YOU done to change anything in the education system other than talk and complain?
In case you haven't read what I'd done go back and look or I'd be happy to find my post and lead you to it.
I spent over ten years of my own time making ZERO money running an alternative school for kids in westbury/New Castle because I hated how the schools were run back then. We had every denomination kid of all ages in The Learning Tree Free School all of which graducated and went on and did real well in their lives because of The Tree. We ran it on a sliding scale. We charged only what the parents could afford, some paid nothing but donated their time..basically it was run on donations. A not for profit.
I didn't need to write my congressman or senetor because ACTION speaks louder than words. Words usually get you NO WHERE!!
So tell me..what have you done to better society for children besides write on your computer and complain.

Why didn't you put your kids into the Westbury School District?

or at least sponsor those kids in Westbury to go to Cold Spring Harbor?

I'm tired of the hypocrisy.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:19 PM
 
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I guess you are in favor of vouchers?
You guessed wrong: other than safety inspections of the private school buildings, I want the gov't completely out of the education (in the case of gov't, it's the miss-education) business.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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Why didn't you put your kids into the Westbury School District?

or at least sponsor those kids in Westbury to go to Cold Spring Harbor?

I'm tired of the hypocrisy.
LOL...
I LIVED at the school I worked in. It was a big house we rented.
The school ended and I moved upstate for awhile before I came back to LI and rented in Roslyn Hts...saved my pennies before we bought something next to the CSH RR station. I was in my late twenties then. I barely had a pot to pizz in.
I'd say up to that point I more than did my part...oh and did I metion I was bringing my ONE YEAR OLD daughter Niko up alone for five years before I remarried. I think I had enough on my plate to think about at that time.
So you don't think devoting ten years of my young life to helping kids was enough at that point?
And you still haven't told me what YOU'VE done besides spend time on the internet complaining about what you think i havent done.

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