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Its not just the lost pay for not working, but they were fined in ADDITION to the lost wages. Alot of workers dont want to strike, but if the union says strike, they have to, otherwise they are "scabs". Its a double edged sword.
I believe that under the Taylor Law, the strikers get fined 2 days pay for every one they are out on strike.
So that means the lose three days pay for every day struck (the days pay for not being at work, and 2 days fine)
No one wants to go on strike, but sometimes unionized workers feel they have no other choice but to use it as negotiating leverage with management/owners
I believe that under the Taylor Law, the strikers get fined 2 days pay for every one they are out on strike.
So that means the lose three days pay for every day struck (the days pay for not being at work, and 2 days fine)
No one wants to go on strike, but sometimes unionized workers feel they have no other choice but to use it as negotiating leverage with management/owners
I agree with striking if need be. Workers today are being taken advantage of. The ceo's are robbing the company, while the people who deserve it get screwed. Im not saying the mta workers are not being paid fairly, but the trend of givebacks from all workers in this country just to keep your job is disturbing. There needs to be a compromise.
I agree with striking if need be. Workers today are being taken advantage of. The ceo's are robbing the company, while the people who deserve it get screwed. Im not saying the mta workers are not being paid fairly, but the trend of givebacks from all workers in this country just to keep your job is disturbing. There needs to be a compromise.
Underfunded public employee pensions and high employee health care costs are bankrupting states. Guess who winds up paying the bill?
I agree with striking if need be. Workers today are being taken advantage of. The ceo's are robbing the company, while the people who deserve it get screwed. Im not saying the mta workers are not being paid fairly, but the trend of givebacks from all workers in this country just to keep your job is disturbing. There needs to be a compromise.
Union workers in NYS, esp. in NYC and on LI, are NOT being taken advantage of.
I've not seen such a ridiculous, uninformed statement since I first logged in here at c-d.com. If anything, the unions are inheriting LI, between their guaranteed pensions, luxurious health benefits and generous time off, thanks to corrupt politicians.
Back in the 90's, during that golden age of the internet boom and full employment in our country, union leaders were worried that their rank-and-file would be left in the dust by private business employees. Fast-forward to today, two crashes later, private enterprise has all but left LI, and white collar jobs have been cut in half by employees, with salaries that now trail public employers and union members. That means federal government workers are now earning higher incomes, despite better benefits and job security, than their counterparts in private business. This is a first.
Believe me, the give-backs for white-collar employees have cut right to the bone and they are continuing to cut into muscle now. An $80k LIRR conductor or $110k/yr public school gym teacher is doing a whole load better than someone working in finance or it, with their measy 401ks and non-existent bonuses (thanks Obama).
On top of that, I'm sure you're aware of the 40% excise tax Obama has levied on 'Cadillac' health plans offered by private business... well he exempted unions from the tax! Now that's a real Chicago liberal, pro-labor crooked politician at work!
I agree with striking if need be. Workers today are being taken advantage of.
THAT is the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
I've got a few family members & friends who work in various public sectors from teaching to police....yes, the career isn't a cake walk by any means.
It pretty nice to bank somewhere between 100-180k & looking fwd to retiring in their early 50s. I have to admit, I would fit tooth & nails to protect those salary & fringe benefits.
I've got a few family members & friends who work in various public sectors from teaching to police....yes, the career isn't a cake walk by any means.
It pretty nice to bank somewhere between 100-180k & looking fwd to retiring in their early 50s. I have to admit, I would fit tooth & nails to protect those salary & fringe benefits.
I have been in public service since 1999. I've never had one 100k year.
I don't think I'm being taken advantage of though. I work in a non union job, and probably do more than what is required of me, but that keeps the job interesting.
This is an interesting situation and both sides could see it blow up in their faces. Cuomo controls the MTA board so their offer is essentially his offer and the current offer mirrors a deal he reached with other unions in the midst of the financial crisis - no raises for 3 years. In some respects, I agree with that - the rest of us suffered in the financial crisis, many lost jobs, many got no raises, some took pay cuts, so it's hard to think that the union is justified in getting retroactive raises. It is an election year and Cuomo knows that (initially) LIers will hold the unions in contempt if they strike, giving him brownie points with the voters. However, he's also got to realize that if a strike lasts more than a week, voters are going to get upset with the whole situation and that's when pols like Cuomo will start to get voter backlash. There is some thinking that Cuomo will not ask for a second arbitration panel and force a strike in March rather than July, because a strike in July would be more economically disruptive to LI with the Hamptons in full swing. The last time the LIRR struck was in 1994 and it lasted two days, I believe. They used school buses to ferry people toward NYC and, of course, that created an absolute traffic nightmare on the LIE. This time around, I suspect many will try to work from home for a while, unless the strike drags on for more than a few days. I honestly believe Cuomo is looking for a strike to prove that he understands voter angst with ever rising costs of living in NYS, including the fare hikes on the MTA and LIRR over the past few years which were fairly significant. He's all about the property tax cap and giving property tax rebates in this election cycle and this would fit right in with that positioning heading into November's elections. I also think the Obama arbitration panel was somewhat sympathetic to the LIRR unions for Obama's own political agenda and I would be shocked if DeBlasio isn't also sympathetic to the unions this year in NYC's contract negotiations for the same reasons.
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