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Old 02-27-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Superblock project in Long Beach has been approved.
Appropriate for the City of Long Beach.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Appropriate for the City of Long Beach.
I'm not sure more development on our shorelines is a great idea, also a big condominium project pending in Island Park. Long Beach is a city but not sure if that development is near the LIRR terminal.

Some are using transit oriented development as an excuse to push through development as is the case with the Lighthouse Development on the Saggitos Pkwy, they are not even near a train terminal.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I'm not sure more development on our shorelines is a great idea, also a big condominium project pending in Island Park. Long Beach is a city but not sure if that development is near the LIRR terminal.

Some are using transit oriented development as an excuse to push through development as is the case with the Lighthouse Development on the Saggitos Pkwy, they are not even near a train terminal.
According to what I've read, it's a 10 min walk to the LIRR station. While I am not a fan of overdeveloping the shoreline, this is a 6 acre parcel which previously had large structures on it. It is not pristine land. If if were pristine, undeveloped land, I would be singing a different tune.


The development proposed for the Pilgrim State property would be 2.3 miles from the LIRR. One would like to believe that developers would have some sort of plan in place for a shuttle, or in the very least arrange with Suffolk bus to run from the property, through the industrial park, to the LIRR and further on to Tanger, etc.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:30 AM
 
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According to what I've read, it's a 10 min walk to the LIRR station. While I am not a fan of overdeveloping the shoreline, this is a 6 acre parcel which previously had large structures on it. It is not pristine land. If if were pristine, undeveloped land, I would be singing a different tune.


The development proposed for the Pilgrim State property would be 2.3 miles from the LIRR. One would like to believe that developers would have some sort of plan in place for a shuttle, or in the very least arrange with Suffolk bus to run from the property, through the industrial park, to the LIRR and further on to Tanger, etc.
The superblock project is being built on land the was never developed.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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The superblock project is being built on land the was never developed.
Wrong. You weren't around before it was razed. Here's an old article about the project:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/re...lizo.html?_r=0



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Development has been slow in coming to the Superblock site. In the 1970’s and 80’s, the land was dominated by the decaying apartment buildings, along with a bar named Dirty Dick’s, a bowling alley, a parking lot and bathhouses, Mr. Eaton said. Many buildings housed recovering drug addicts and mental patients sent there from institutions. Landowners “walked away from oceanfront property because, at the time, it was worthless,” he added.

In the 1980’s the city foreclosed on the 13 parcels that now make up the Superblock, citing nonpayment of taxes, and the buildings were demolished.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:31 AM
 
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Wrong. You weren't around before it was razed. Here's an old article about the project:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/re...lizo.html?_r=0
I stand corrected. Very interesting.
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Old 03-01-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Wrong. You weren't around before it was razed. Here's an old article about the project:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/re...lizo.html?_r=0
I remember the bowling alley and Dirty Dick's bar! I used to go to that dive sometimes although I was a little young for it! LOL!
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I stand corrected. Very interesting.
It has been cleared for a while, so I understand why it would be mistaken as undeveloped land. If it had been undeveloped, I would not be supportive of Superblock. As it is, I'm not a huge supporter of shoreline development, and hope lessons learned from Sandy are incorporated into the design and build.
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