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Old 07-15-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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I have no problem with workers earning legitimate overtime. But lets face it, there are many times OT is abused because the workers don't put in a enough work during the day.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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I have no problem with workers earning legitimate overtime. But lets face it, there are many times OT is abused because the workers don't put in a enough work during the day.
Opinions and perception does rarely fact and reality make.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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Fraud and waste does rarely rail and road make.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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There is a big difference between shutting down for sandy and this. During sandy the LIRR had the full staff of employees on hand. This shutdown is leaving them with a skeleton crew of managers, many of which are scared to death of the equipment and yards and have already stated "I wont be doing any of this" to fellow employees. They need us to shut it down, run the schedule and make sure everything can be brought back up as quickly as possible. OT is basically unlimited in some depts right now.
Um, no need to shut it down before strike day. As far as I know, there are no plans to.
Orderly shut down, yes. Starting Wednesday, no. Running full schedules until that time. A scare tactic of the unions so people get pissed off sooner.

They may be staging maintenance equipment, and the like, but nothing that will affect the schedule.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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Um, no need to shut it down before strike day. As far as I know, there are no plans to.
Orderly shut down, yes. Starting Wednesday, no. Running full schedules until that time. A scare tactic of the unions so people get pissed off sooner.

They may be staging maintenance equipment, and the like, but nothing that will affect the schedule.
I have heard that some locations will be locked down starting tonight. Nothing that would affect the train schedules for friday but the preperations have indeed started.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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Someone got hit by a train today in Seaford - cancelled & combined 60 min delays.

Guess that person couldnt handle the strike anticipation. Maybe it wasnt a bad idea
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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I have no problem with workers earning legitimate overtime. But lets face it, there are many times OT is abused because the workers don't put in a enough work during the day.

Dittdon here has mentioned here that benefits shouldn't be counted towards salary. Fact is, the benefit issue is so crucial that it is no doubt CHEAPER to pay massive OT than to hire new employees. As a result, MTA & the media loves to bring out that MTA employees rake in 6 figures....of course unions downplay it looking only as base salary.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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Dittdon here has mentioned here that benefits shouldn't be counted towards salary. Fact is, the benefit issue is so crucial that it is no doubt CHEAPER to pay OT than to hire employees. As a result, MTA & the media loves to bring out that MTA employees rake in 6 figures....of course unions downplay it looking only as base salary.

I actually have the complete opposite view as the overall package needs to be compared , I said what I said in the context of the comparisons being made by posters on this board with LIRR overall compensation to other jobs base salalies was giving a distored view. It has to be an apples to apples comparison something that the news are not doing.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:04 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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I actually have the complete opposite view as the overall package needs to be compared , I said what I said in the context of the comparisons being made by posters on this board with LIRR overall compensation to other jobs base salalies was giving a distored view. It has to be an apples to apples comparison something that the news are not doing.
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I absolutely agree there should be an apples to apples comparison.

I once told my buddy who is a nyc teacher that not paying into medical & pension is kind of rare...almost outdated. He replied, if I give that up...I should get a XX% raise to compensate for the change. Of course, no one want total compensation to go down.

Side note.....I have another friend who took on a new job that paid about 20% more. He paid more into insurance & went from 60 hr work week to 90 hour work week. I asked him..you know..you didn't really get a real salary bump. lol
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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Side note.....I have another friend who took on a new job that paid about 20% more. He paid more into insurance & went from 60 hr work week to 90 hour work week. I asked him..you know..you didn't really get a real salary bump. lol
60 to 90 hour work weeks, just what these large corporations want, especially when paying flat salary. People in 20 years from now will be begging for unions.
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