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These immigrant "children" all had jip notes with instructions on what to say. Our "transparent" government did not allow any contact or even pictures of the "children". They have no ID or birth certificates. Many have gang tattoos. We have no idea who these "children" are. thank you federal government!
You know, if this is "transparent" govt, I dread to think what is coming.
This sounds like something Limbaugh would say before popping a handful of Oxys. It's been proven time and time again that raising labor costs has a minimal effect even if companies were to pass 100% of the costs to consumers. Paying farm workers a higher wage would make that head of lettuce $3 instead of $2.25, big whoop. Every time the minimum wage is raised, the usual corporations **** and moan and yet they still turn record profits.
Wow, comparing anything I say to Limbaugh is some seriously gimp debate from you and completely daft. If you think farm workers are EVER going to get minimum wage of ANY KIND, you live in a fantasy land. We already pay $12 for lettuce by subsidizing farmers and agribusiness to the gills but it's not noticed cause it's still $2.25 at the store. I'm all for raising minimum wage and for massive post WWII style stimulus across the board, but farm jobs (and many other transient, sweat shop styled work) will be exempted, GUARANTEED. Legally?! No. The laws will continue to be on the books but unenforced...just like now. And still, paying farm workers a higher wage will just entice MORE illegal immigration (unenforced) because good ole 'mericans DON'T WANT THE JOB.
It's easy, and partially accurate to blame it all on the old "dems want votes, repubs want cheap labor" mantra but the people aren't exempt from blame. We don't want those jobs but we want cheap goods. So we pay immigrants to harvest what we export and we pay the Chinese to build what we import. It's not just higher wages, we need to pay a lot more to be self-reliant...and I agree, that happens in a heartbeat if we stop playing world police and stop the trickle down scam that has decimated the middle class.
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Most farm workers are already earning at least the minimum wage, even the illegal ones. It's not like we have $1.99 lettuce because Pedro who harvested it was paid 50 cents an hour. If they were earning that little, they wouldn't come to the US in the first place.
Americans don't want to pick crops for the minimum wage, no. Raise it to $15 an hour or higher and you'll see more signing on. This "immigrants are doing the jobs Muricans don't want" is a GOP trope used to bring in ever more immigrants and drive wages down as far as they can.
And yes of course there are problems with enforcement, obviously we would have to rectify that as well but it's still sound policy.
Most farm workers are already earning at least the minimum wage, even the illegal ones. It's not like we have $1.99 lettuce because Pedro who harvested it was paid 50 cents an hour. If they were earning that little, they wouldn't come to the US in the first place.
Americans don't want to pick crops for the minimum wage, no. Raise it to $15 an hour or higher and you'll see more signing on. This "immigrants are doing the jobs Muricans don't want" is a GOP trope used to bring in ever more immigrants and drive wages down as far as they can.
And yes of course there are problems with enforcement, obviously we would have to rectify that as well but it's still sound policy.
Yes, GOP trope. That covers it all. It has nothing to do with American's not wanting the job at the $9/hr it tops out at now. And even if they did, farm jobs declined 25k+ last year. Why would farmers pay more in a declining industry with plenty of available illegals? Enforcement is the key but it doesn't give the people what they want, which is cheap goods and a safe distance from back breaking labor. In this case the politicians are doing exactly what the people want but won't admit to wanting. It's not about the jobs...we want illegals picking our crops, just not going to our schools or hospitals. Can't have it both ways I'm afraid.
Salaries for farm workers in Latin America are <$10 a week. .50/hour would definitely attract new immigrants. Many of these people live right on the farm. Americans don't even want blue collar jobs period. Unless they come with union benefits.
This sounds like something Limbaugh would say before popping a handful of Oxys. It's been proven time and time again that raising labor costs has a minimal effect even if companies were to pass 100% of the costs to consumers. Paying farm workers a higher wage would make that head of lettuce $3 instead of $2.25, big whoop. Every time the minimum wage is raised, the usual corporations **** and moan and yet they still turn record profits.
33% increase is big whoop?
Sure for a head of lettuce, but now take that into context and multiply that head of lettuce a day for 365 and your cost of food is pretty substantially going up. Imagine if iPhones were now $900? Small car, $25,000 starting.
Newsday is now reporting on what districts are most affected by the influx of unaccompanied children. No surprises here:
Among districts that reported figures last week on enrolled students who were unaccompanied minors, Central Islip had about 130, Glen Cove had about 30, Freeport had 25, and Hampton Bays had seven. Brentwood, Hempstead, Westbury, Uniondale and Patchogue-Medford, whose schools have significant Latino immigrant populations, did not provide numbers or did not comment.
The numbers given (192) account for less than 10% the total number of children. Are we really to believe that the 5 districts listed which allegedly 'did not provide numbers or comment' absorbed the remaining 2,000+ students?
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Long Island school districts face the challenge of providing services and support to an influx of students from more than 2,200 school-age...
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New York ranks second in the nation, after Texas, for receiving 4,244...
While NYS has received 4.244 of the children, Nassau and Suffolk have wound up with over half of that amount. According to another news source, Nassau County received 1,096 of the 2,200 illegal alien students with Suffolk receiving the balance.
What does this mean to already beleaguered Long Island taxpayers? With a 2% tax cap on our sky high school taxes, what cuts will be made within budgets in order to support increasing ESL (and auxilliary) services for these children? What will the cost be to the students who are here legally, who were born here, and whose parents are footing the bill?
The numbers given (192) account for less than 10% the total number of children. Are we really to believe that the 5 districts listed which allegedly 'did not provide numbers or comment' absorbed the remaining 2,000+ students?
From the article:
While NYS has received 4.244 of the children, Nassau and Suffolk have wound up with over half of that amount. According to another news source, Nassau County received 1,096 of the 2,200 illegal alien students with Suffolk receiving the balance.
What does this mean to already beleaguered Long Island taxpayers? With a 2% tax cap on our sky high school taxes, what cuts will be made within budgets in order to support increasing ESL (and auxilliary) services for these children? What will the cost be to the students who are here legally, who were born here, and whose parents are footing the bill?
Nothing. We the sheeple will just pay. Too stupid, busy or ambivalent to care. I'd rather pay to educate kids, even brown ones than just wonder why my kids KG teacher makes $131k. Those KG lesson plans must keep her up til the wee hours, although I've never seen her car at school past 3:45. Maybe these kids will have reference for their adopted home and create us an economy one day. As is, LI's prospects are in the crapper and the local snowflakes can't bail out of here fast enough. Not that I blame them 1 bit.
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