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Are you serious? You're offended because someone asked you your name and where you're from etc?
I spend a lot of time in Vermont and up there people will just walk up to you at the coffee shop and ask your name, where you are from, what you do for a living, etc etc.
It's the same thing that happened to you here. You weren't detained. You had a voluntary interaction with some cops working their beat. You should get over yourself.
Slightly different thing, but voluntary. The folks in VT aren't LEOs; they're questions don't have the potential to cause a person to implicate themselves.
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As for the girl getting stopped on her motorcycle for no reason and subsequently handcuffed... that's an entirely different issue. I can't see how anyone would defend those actions.
Three sides to every story: We have her side of the story which she can present with facts omitted or altered in an effort to garner sympathy. The cop isn't here to give us his side. We know the truth is somewhere in the middle.
I have two cousins who are NYPD. They will ALWAYS side with any cop, any situation, any location. Whenever a story comes up where a cop was clearly in the wrong, one of them will shrug it off and claim that"anyone can have a bad day!" REALLY?? When most people have a bad day, it does not result in an innocent person getting detained or locked up. I have found that not to many cops have the courage to go against the "Blue Wall." There are no more Serpicos' out there.
Three sides to every story: We have her side of the story which she can present with facts omitted or altered in an effort to garner sympathy. The cop isn't here to give us his side. We know the truth is somewhere in the middle.
" to garner sympathy"? Why would I need to do that? I was simply relating an incident that happened to me.
I stood up for myself and didn't need any sympathy then nor do I need it now.
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I was reading that CCRB which is anti cop says that 1/3 off all complaints are completely false. Thousands of complaints a year that damage a Police Officers career. What happens to these people? Nothing! They should be arrested for make a false allegation. Instead they get a free pass! Almost the other 2/3 of complaints are unable to be substantiated. They only find the cop at fault I believe under 5% of the time. Most cops are just like anyone else. Normal blue collar guys. Yes you can meet a guy who isn't a great guy or had a lousy day. But for the most part they are normal people doing a very difficult job. Its very easy to say what you would do. Step into the shoes of a Police Officer and see it through their eyes. For every bad story there are a hundred stories of a Police Officer helping someone out that you will never hear!
I was reading that CCRB which is anti cop says that 1/3 off all complaints are completely false. Thousands of complaints a year that damage a Police Officers career. What happens to these people? Nothing! They should be arrested for make a false allegation. Instead they get a free pass! Almost the other 2/3 of complaints are unable to be substantiated. They only find the cop at fault I believe under 5% of the time. Most cops are just like anyone else. Normal blue collar guys. Yes you can meet a guy who isn't a great guy or had a lousy day. But for the most part they are normal people doing a very difficult job. Its very easy to say what you would do. Step into the shoes of a Police Officer and see it through their eyes. For every bad story there are a hundred stories of a Police Officer helping someone out that you will never hear!
But but but but the media cant sell papers that way... besides, it's cool now to hate the "pigs", right???
I was reading that CCRB which is anti cop says that 1/3 off all complaints are completely false. Thousands of complaints a year that damage a Police Officers career. What happens to these people? Nothing! They should be arrested for make a false allegation. Instead they get a free pass! Almost the other 2/3 of complaints are unable to be substantiated. They only find the cop at fault I believe under 5% of the time. Most cops are just like anyone else. Normal blue collar guys. Yes you can meet a guy who isn't a great guy or had a lousy day. But for the most part they are normal people doing a very difficult job. Its very easy to say what you would do. Step into the shoes of a Police Officer and see it through their eyes. For every bad story there are a hundred stories of a Police Officer helping someone out that you will never hear!
That is a point that I had not considered, but even in those cases, the cop has a very strong union to represent him and ensure his rights are protected. The process, I imagine, goes through many stages. An encounter with an unfair cop on the street will have an immediate and potentially devastating effect on an otherwise law abiding citizen. Most people, I believe, would have a more positive attitude toward the police if regular rank and file cops did not always seem to look the other way when another cop steps over the line. There are stories in the paper all the time about off duty cops messing with civilians while another off duty cop does nothing to stop him.
The old "walk a mile in his shoes" argument is really kind of weak. By that logic, nobody should criticize any politician or judge if you haven't held that position yourself. I'm not a powerful and rich Wall Street guy, but I KNOW what Bernie Madoff did was wrong. Sometimes it's just common sense.
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That is a point that I had not considered, but even in those cases, the cop has a very strong union to represent him and ensure his rights are protected. The process, I imagine, goes through many stages. An encounter with an unfair cop on the street will have an immediate and potentially devastating effect on an otherwise law abiding citizen. Most people, I believe, would have a more positive attitude toward the police if regular rank and file cops did not always seem to look the other way when another cop steps over the line. There are stories in the paper all the time about off duty cops messing with civilians while another off duty cop does nothing to stop him.
The old "walk a mile in his shoes" argument is really kind of weak. By that logic, nobody should criticize any politician or judge if you haven't held that position yourself. I'm not a powerful and rich Wall Street guy, but I KNOW what Bernie Madoff did was wrong. Sometimes it's just common sense.
I agree it takes common sense. However the vast majority of Police Officers do their job without any complaints from the community. It is not an easy job. Its also a job if you make a mistake you can be charged with a crime. Police Officers often are put in a position to make a split second decision and then have that decision Monday morning quarterbacked for months on end by someone that has never been in that position.
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