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I'm always amazed at the right-wing reactionary views spewed by public sector workers against those who need help, while they lap up a lion's share of taxpayer-funded largesse. In other words, they're conservative except when it applies to them.
It's a two way street. I know very liberal left wingers (close friends and family) who spout their liberalism while living in posh communities and would fight tooth and nail to keep a "soup kitchen" out of their neighborhood.
If people want to spout their views then put your money where your mouth is and move to Brownsville and East New York. Not a chance baby, I rather spout my liberal views in a nice secure home and neighborhood and keep those "undesirable" and "lowlife" under class voting democrats who eat at soup kitchens away from my high and mighty Democrat life style.
I'm not beating up on the left I'm just making a point that liberals want to protect their REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT just like a conservative wants to protect their REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT.
We live in a cruel world people and whether you want to admit it or not there is a stigma that soup kitchens bring.
Is it real, is it imagined? that's for the community to decide and come to grips with.
It's nobody's business to decide for this community. The community will determine what happens in their community.
If you feel so strongly that this soup kitchen should happen, then petition your local gov't and put one next door so you can walk over and help out in your community. Not five blocks away, right next door.
It's a two way street. I know very liberal left wingers (close friends and family) who spout their liberalism while living in posh communities and would fight tooth and nail to keep a "soup kitchen" out of their neighborhood.
If people want to spout their views then put your money where your mouth is and move to Brownsville and East New York. Not a chance baby, I rather spout my liberal views in a nice secure home and neighborhood and keep those "undesirable" and "lowlife" under class voting democrats who eat at soup kitchens away from my high and mighty Democrat life style.
I'm not beating up on the left I'm just making a point that liberals want to protect their REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT just like a conservative wants to protect their REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT.
We live in a cruel world people and whether you want to admit it or not there is a stigma that soup kitchens bring.
Is it real, is it imagined? that's for the community to decide and come to grips with.
It's nobody's business to decide for this community. The community will determine what happens in their community.
If you feel so strongly that this soup kitchen should happen, then petition your local gov't and put one next door so you can walk over and help out in your community. Not five blocks away, right next door.
You missed my point entirely.
I made the point that public sector workers, those who rely 100% on taxpayer receipts, are often the ones who express the most right-wing reactionary views toward anyone else who needs help. They rake in high pay and Cadillac benefits that follow them to the grave, causing taxpayers widespread fiscal distress. Yet they diss people in their community who may need a bit of assistance to make ends meet.
The person I quoted seems to be one of them, and I've seen this over and over.
My next door neighbors wouldn't like it if I petitioned the town to turn their home into a soup kitchen.
"I made the point that public sector workers, those who rely 100% on taxpayer receipts, are often the ones who express the most right-wing reactionary views toward anyone else who needs help"
"I made the point that public sector workers, those who rely 100% on taxpayer receipts, are often the ones who express the most right-wing reactionary views toward anyone else who needs help"
This is LI where the majority of public sector hacks are Republican. It's not just them; the bias cuts straight across both parties. I've seen these right wing views from public sector workers are pretty consistent.
The usual liberal tactic, deflect the facts because I can't back up my made up lies.
all I did was a simple search. I guess I could do the same and research how many Long Island public sector hacks are republican. I'm curious what the numbers are. Maybe you can research it and let us all know.
Now what exactly are you asking of me? am I a union worker? a hack republican? a public worker? all of the above?
If I answer will it change the facts? or just help you cope with your made up lies?
The usual liberal tactic, deflect the facts because I can't back up my made up lies.
all I did was a simple search. I guess I could do the same and research how many Long Island public sector hacks are republican. I'm curious what the numbers are. Maybe you can research it and let us all know.
Now what exactly are you asking of me? am I a union worker? a hack republican? a public worker? all of the above?
If I answer will it change the facts? or just help you cope with your made up lies?
You doth protest too much. Your unnecessarily confrontational and defensive style tells me you are a connected public sector worker dependent on the taxpayers for a high income.
No matter. I'm leaving LI and you can all keep this patronage pit for yourselves. Over and out.
It's a two way street. I know very liberal left wingers (close friends and family) who spout their liberalism while living in posh communities and would fight tooth and nail to keep a "soup kitchen" out of their neighborhood
I'm not beating up on the left I'm just making a point that liberals want to protect their REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT just like a conservative wants to protect their REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT.
If you feel so strongly that this soup kitchen should happen, then petition your local gov't and put one next door so you can walk over and help out in your community. Not five blocks away, right next door.
It's unfortunate that you know some unpleasant people but a food pantry exists near my house and yet I haven't seen any spikes in crime or undesirable effects in any way. I was under the impression that most churches offer this service maybe I am wrong.
It's unfortunate that you know some unpleasant people but a food pantry exists near my house and yet I haven't seen any spikes in crime or undesirable effects in any way. I was under the impression that most churches offer this service maybe I am wrong.
Many (if not most) Long Islanders (suburbanites in general, really) LOVE to live in their imaginary bubble, thinking they are "rich" and "wonderful" and they don't want to see anything that will destroy that fantasy.
They don't want to know that there are many people in their communities who work for a living but still need some kind of help to make ends meet and rely on food pantries to feed themselves and their children.
They want to believe that anyone who needs help is a "druggie" or a "criminal" or that they are homeless.
They want to live with their heads in the sand, refusing to live in the real world. It's very sad, really, that these people think this way and actually believe their own delusions.
Delusions, slamusions. I'm perfectly aware of these problems, I just don't care. Let them eat stale hot dog buns thrown at them by scolding schoolmarms.
NOW, i'm all for the homeless getting fed and helped; but
1. The church is on a small side street with little traffic; so if this soup kitchen is established here then the impoverished individuals/beggers would be the primary foot traffic in this area and it would look like Skid Row quick.
2. Most homeless people are unsanitary and many (not all) have extensive histories of drug/alcohol use, criminal records or are sex offenders. And most of these people just loiter around all day...it's really not attractive, safe or desirable. How would you like something like that in YOUR community?
3. A soup kitchen and similar resources would be far more effective and better reach those in need if it were in a struggling area with a higher concentration of poverty (like Wyandanch, Brentwood, Copiague, North Amityville, Central Islip, etc)
At first glance, this situation makes it seems like the people of Babylon are evil rich snobs who want the poor innocent homeless to starve to death; but they just maintain high standards for their community.
This post, in a nutshell, is the biggest problem facing Long Island today. NIMBYism at its finest. Where do you come up with your facts regarding what a homeless person looks like? Or the fact that there aren't already hungry or homeless people in Babylon? There are homeless shelters in Babylon, or did you not know that? Why don't you go volunteer at a homeless shelter to see what a true homeless person on Long Island looks like before you make rash judgements that they're all unsanitary and sex offenders! Get a clue before you post things like this.
And what about people in Babylon that are hungry, or house poor? What about single mothers that could use a little extra food to get by for their families? Or are they supposed to go to the less savory areas of Long Island because they're not like you?
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