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3Ver here. According to the NYS Report cards during school year 2013-14 there were 14% minorities (Black, Hispanic, Asian, biracial) in the TVCSD and 7% economically disadvantaged. A few of the elementary schools have food pantries for this reason.
With the university in our midst, we see students from around the world moving in and out as their parent's careers require. Does this skew the results? I can't say for certain, but in terms of diversity, we do have more international students. This has to count for something; after all, black and white kids from Long Island have far more in common than their contemporaries from all across the globe.
I'm a fair-skinned Hispanic with a European married name. There have been several instances where I have had to correct teachers as to what my children are/aren't. This has been ongoing since K enrollment.
I believe the minority (specifically Hispanic) count would be higher than 4% if Hispanic children were enumerated using their ancestry as opposed to how Hispanic they look or whether they have an Hispanic last name.
Refering back to the NYS report cards:
LOL Of course depending on one's definition of 'diverse' the 86% white Three Village School District can be considered "diverse". I agree.
I have heard that "Hispanic" is generally an ethnicity while Hispanics are considered white by race. So a fair skinned Hispanic is white by race (as is a darker skinned Hispanic BTW).
Wyandanch 61% Black 37% Hispanic and according to one poster two ethnic groups in one district does not make them 'diverse' at all (essentially 0 Asians and 0 Whites). Gotta love that 'diverse' term.
3Ver here. According to the NYS Report cards during school year 2013-14 there were 14% minorities (Black, Hispanic, Asian, biracial) in the TVCSD and 7% economically disadvantaged. A few of the elementary schools have food pantries for this reason.
With the university in our midst, we see students from around the world moving in and out as their parent's careers require. Does this skew the results? I can't say for certain, but in terms of diversity, we do have more international students. This has to count for something; after all, black and white kids from Long Island have far more in common than their contemporaries from all across the globe.
I'm a fair-skinned Hispanic with a European married name. There have been several instances where I have had to correct teachers as to what my children are/aren't. This has been ongoing since K enrollment.
I believe the minority (specifically Hispanic) count would be higher than 4% if Hispanic children were enumerated using their ancestry as opposed to how Hispanic they look or whether they have an Hispanic last name.
Refering back to the NYS report cards:
The original registration forms are filled out by the parents. A teacher can't change this as far as I know.
Jewish folk will sell to anyone hence what ruined the Bronx in the early 1970s
Many of the 'Jewish folk' you are refering to rented apartments on the Grand Concourse. A lot of families left their Grand Concourse rentals for Co-Op city when it opened in 1968. When their rentals freed up, more minorities who were less affluent came in, and along with them, brought some social ills. We moved out of the Bronx in December 1969 and by that time, it was already well on its way to ruin. I can recall seeing garbage dumped from windows (who wants to walk down to the garbage area?) and walking with mom while she pushed my sister's stroller around drunks and druggies.
I filled out the original registration forms, yet for reasons beyond my control, have had to deal with someone in an office changing their forms to 'white'. I have to give the caveat that my children are older -- the youngest being in 10th grade -- and at the time, there was no choice of White Hispanic. You were white or you were Hispanic. I checked Hispanic. Once the paperwork left my hands, someone switched it.
LOL Of course depending on one's definition of 'diverse' the 86% white Three Village School District can be considered "diverse". I agree.
I have heard that "Hispanic" is generally an ethnicity while Hispanics are considered white by race. So a fair skinned Hispanic is white by race (as is a darker skinned Hispanic BTW).
The 'diversity' game can be very funny.
Would you (or anyone, please) happen to know where I could find what the average percentage of 'white' is for LI school districts?
That Hispanics are racially white seems to be something which is becoming an historical relic especially given the fact that there are many Latin American countries where the indigenous people as well as ancestors of former slaves have intermarried for centuries creating a rainbow of Hispanic people.
Perhaps ethnicity shouldn't be broken out -- especially as there are so many more Latin Americans in the US.
Would you (or anyone, please) happen to know where I could find what the average percentage of 'white' is for LI school districts?
That Hispanics are racially white seems to be something which is becoming an historical relic especially given the fact that there are many Latin American countries where the indigenous people as well as ancestors of former slaves have intermarried for centuries creating a rainbow of Hispanic people.
Perhaps ethnicity shouldn't be broken out -- especially as there are so many more Latin Americans in the US.
I agree, the 'diversity' game can be very funny.
I don't think that was ever really true in the first place and people who thought that back then were mistaken. The New World countries dominated by Spain and Portugal back in the days of exploration produced mostly people who were part Spaniard (or Portuguese) and part Native Indian (whose ancient background according to DNA is mostly Asian). Then black slaves were imported and more mixing occurred in many areas. So historically New World Hispanics are bi-racial or tri-racial for the most part if you go way back, yet many have more genes from one gene pool or the other and it shows in their appearance. For instance, I have met people from Peru who strongly resemble Indios and I have met people from Peru who strongly resemble Spaniards.
As for the reason Hispanics are categorized as either white or black on US censuses, etc., I think it is the "One Drop Rule" that has dominated US culture since way back. It goes if a person has one drop of black blood, that means they are categorized as black (no matter how they look).
As for the diversity game, yes, it is weird how people look at it ... that if there are "a lot" of minorities it is diverse, even if the minorities are actually the majority (so it's really not diverse).
I think the term diverse should be reserved for communities that have more or less an equal balances of different races/ethnicities in their total makeup. On LI, there are not many communities like that.
This is diverse for LI standards, but still not "textbook" diverse:
from City-Data
White alone - 15,503 (41.1%)
Hispanic - 10,209 (27.1%)
Black alone - 6,233 (16.5%)
Asian alone - 5,231 (13.9%)
Two or more races - 811 (2.2%)
Other race alone - 287 (0.8%)
American Indian alone - 12 (0.03%)
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