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Old 05-01-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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You know what, best of luck to her maybe she will be able to live eating a vegetarian diet and get through while at the school house. Speaking from my own military career experiences good luck trying to stick to it once you are assigned to an operational unit especially one that is forward deployed. As for the availability of a Jewish Chaplains yes they exist but I can count on one hand how many times in 20 years one was assigned to the base I was stationed at.

Lets look at what the OP posted " first female Orthodox Yeshiva student to go to West Point" this is not a regular career choice for these students. Flexibility of the faith or athletes who live vegetarian are not the issue the story is about an Orthodox Yeshiva graduate, one who keeps kosher take those away and she is a graduate who got accepted to West Point, end of story.
The Yeshiva is (Modern) Orthodox, not the graduate.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:50 PM
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The Yeshiva is (Modern) Orthodox, not the graduate.
Then the Times story is moot, she's a soon to be graduate who got accepted to West Point..
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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Then the Times story is moot, she's a soon to be graduate who got accepted to West Point..
Yep, thumbs up to anyone who gets accepted there, they are all very impressive young men and women.
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Old 05-02-2015, 05:04 AM
 
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Good for her! Great to hear a story like this.
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Old 05-02-2015, 05:12 AM
 
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You know what, best of luck to her maybe she will be able to live eating a vegetarian diet and get through while at the school house. Speaking from my own military career experiences good luck trying to stick to it once you are assigned to an operational unit especially one that is forward deployed. As for the availability of a Jewish Chaplains yes they exist but I can count on one hand how many times in 20 years one was assigned to the base I was stationed at.

Lets look at what the OP posted " first female Orthodox Yeshiva student to go to West Point" this is not a regular career choice for these students. Flexibility of the faith or athletes who live vegetarian are not the issue the story is about an Orthodox Yeshiva graduate, one who keeps kosher take those away and she is a graduate who got accepted to West Point, end of story.
Also a vet here VA, don't know when you served but today's military will probably bend over backwards to accommodate her in most cases. As for forward deployments I'm sure she will do what she has to do, and that she's well aware it may be tough or impossible to observe in all situations.
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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It's tough being a Jew. You look right, and you get criticized for ignoring the left. You look left, and people suspect that your up to no good for not looking right. Either way, I think this a great accomplishment. Mazel Tov!
Yes the poor oppressed Jews that are the most successful ethnic group in the west.
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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You know what, best of luck to her maybe she will be able to live eating a vegetarian diet and get through while at the school house. Speaking from my own military career experiences good luck trying to stick to it once you are assigned to an operational unit especially one that is forward deployed. As for the availability of a Jewish Chaplains yes they exist but I can count on one hand how many times in 20 years one was assigned to the base I was stationed at.

Lets look at what the OP posted " first female Orthodox Yeshiva student to go to West Point" this is not a regular career choice for these students. Flexibility of the faith or athletes who live vegetarian are not the issue the story is about an Orthodox Yeshiva graduate, one who keeps kosher take those away and she is a graduate who got accepted to West Point, end of story.
Well, I agree with you in that West Point is not a common career choice for students from those schools and that is the main point of the story. But others have pointed out the obstacles to that type of career and my point is that one can maintain their relgious beliefs because there is some pliability, yet maintain their other patriotic secular beliefs in a desire to serve their country. It's been done before in various branches of the military and it is possible. We also do not know what kind of assignment she will eventually have plus I had heard from others that her intent was to eventually go to medical school. And again, I was pointing out to you that she attended a modern orthodox school, which is not the same type of education that students from the upstate Satmar communties receive. You were the one to lump her in with the Monsey crowd and something tells me since you appear to be fairly unfamilar with Judiasm, that you had little exposure to Orthodox Jews, or were not privy or aware how they maintained religious continuity during your deployment, if you did have interactment with observant Jews at all during your service. Still, we are all very grateful for your sacrifices for your service. From the article, it sounds as if the student's school is very proud of her nor are they discouraging her from attending West Point because of any relgious conflict. Remember, as a West Point grad, she will have certain options that may have not been available to you. Also, if you ever get a chance to visit West Point, there is a very famous Jewish Chapel for West Point Cadets and there is a student organization, as well. Office of Chaplains - Jewish Chapel
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Yep, thumbs up to anyone who gets accepted there, they are all very impressive young men and women.
It's an amazing accomplishment for anyone. Many of our Long Islanders get acceptances to Ivy League colleges, but much fewer for West Point, the US Naval Academy, or US Air Force Academy.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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It's an amazing accomplishment for anyone. Many of our Long Islanders get acceptances to Ivy League colleges, but much fewer for West Point, the US Naval Academy, or US Air Force Academy.
I think fewer LIers are pushing for their kids to go into the military.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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I think fewer LIers are pushing for their kids to go into the military.
Agreed I think it's the almost complete lack of a military presence on LI. Out of sight out of mind which is sad. Where I used to live in FL it was ingrained in the culture (lived near an AF base), all high schools had jrotc programs and every other kid was a military brat. Service academy congressional nomination slots were very fiercely competed for, and it seemed every graduating class had at least one going to a service academy, they were every bit as revered as an Ivy League admission if not more.
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