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Old 05-08-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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Once you are done with your mortgage, you still have to pay property taxes, which are the size of mortgages in most other parts of the country. You aren't allowed to build or add anything to your house without paying hefty permit fees or fines. Town officials are constantly spying on you with Google Earth satellites. If you want to buy anything and store it on your property you have to get permission. There was a video posted on here yesterday where someone was denied permission to place a boat on his propery, and when he pointed out the fact that the town official had a boat on her property, he was summarily prosecuted. So, I have to ask, what does it really mean to own property, when you have to pay hefty tributes just to own the thing and constantly have to beg for permission to make the slightest modification. That sounds more like a tenant or serf to me.
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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Cool story.
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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Can't argue with that.
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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Yes. So what about paying only the hefty taxes if you make enough from jobs around here. It's all relative. Parents who are around the median are doing fine financially. They could also move to a lesser taxed town and pay $7k/year which is reasonable for suburbia surrounding a major metropolis.

And it's been shown time and again that city people end up paying just as much in taxes, for less return.

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Old 05-08-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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Once you are done with your mortgage, you still have to pay property taxes, which are the size of mortgages in most other parts of the country. You aren't allowed to build or add anything to your house without paying hefty permit fees or fines. Town officials are constantly spying on you with Google Earth satellites. If you want to buy anything and store it on your property you have to get permission. There was a video posted on here yesterday where someone was denied permission to place a boat on his propery, and when he pointed out the fact that the town official had a boat on her property, he was summarily prosecuted. So, I have to ask, what does it really mean to own property, when you have to pay hefty tributes just to own the thing and constantly have to beg for permission to make the slightest modification. That sounds more like a tenant or serf to me.
Why would I want my neighbor storing a large ugly object full of gasoline on the lot next to me.

A boat is an eye sore, a fire hazard and a danger to neighbors.
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Tenant, maybe. I don't think we're living in modern serfdom on LI though.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Stop it, I just moved here and now you are making me depressed.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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For folks new to LI we just doubled the property tax for everyone who bought after 1-1-2000 and everyone who bought before 1-1-200 they pay no property tax.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Yes. So what about paying only the hefty taxes if you make enough from jobs around here. It's all relative. Parents who are around the median are doing fine financially. They could also move to a lesser taxed town and pay $7k/year which is reasonable for suburbia surrounding a major metropolis.

And it's been shown time and again that city people end up paying just as much in taxes, for less return.
The median Suffolk family income is around $85,000 a year.

For households making $75,000-$99,000 a year, 34% pay more than 35% of their income on housing expenses (as of 2010). In 2000 it was 8%.

Yet when you look at average pay per employee, in the US in 2010 it was $45,913 and for Long Island $48,059.

What that says is that to be "doing fine financially" both parents who are around the median have to work. They spend more of their income on housing than before, and for many jobs really don't make THAT much more than the US average.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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It's worth noting that we enjoy one of the lower property tax rates in the state and just about the average tax rate in the country. The problem is that houses are worth more here, unfortunately people don't complain when their property values go up just when their taxes do.
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