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I will give one set of props to Lawrence Schools. Identical houses in Atlantic Beach which is Lawrence Schools to East Atlantic Beach which is Long Beach schools the school taxes are like 2k more a year in East Atlantic Beach.
If it is a rental, vacation home or your retirement home you are never sending kids to the school district. Paying 2k a year extra in taxes forever is a bit of a rip off.
But at same time you dont want to see kids suffer and bad schools do have an effect on the community. Families with kids who intend to use public schools avoid Lawrence.
But if we time travel to 1980. Lawrence, Great Neck and Manhasset schools were identical. Lawrence was one of the best HS in the Island. So pretty amazing how they distroyed the schools.
Must be an interesting dynamic in Lawrence - in Rockland, the community is Jewish, black, and Hispanic, so it's been minorities suffering the fallout of the Orthodox takeover. Lawrence doesn't have a sizable minority population, so who's getting the shaft? Christians? Secular Jews?
Must be an interesting dynamic in Lawrence - in Rockland, the community is Jewish, black, and Hispanic, so it's been minorities suffering the fallout of the Orthodox takeover. Lawrence doesn't have a sizable minority population, so who's getting the shaft? Christians? Secular Jews?
Inwood goes there. That neighborhood is pretty poor.
The rich Catholics sends kids to Private school too.
The purpose is to show that this kind of takeover has been replicated by the same community in other places, including Long Island. They infiltrate the school board although their kids don’t go there, they’ll hire one of their own lawyers specializing in these tactics and pay them exorbitantly at the expense of local taxpayers, shut down public schools and force the sale of the schools to yeshivas for pennies on the dollar.
We should be cognizant of these things so that we can recognize it when it’s happening in our school districts and prevent these takeovers.
We should also recognize similar things happen in the political space whereby they infiltrate, pass laws and influence policy that favors their homeland. After coming here to insult our president, Netanyahu is asking for a 50% increase in military funding to $4.5 billion. And they’ll get it because our lawmakers and campaign contributors belong to this group whose loyalty lies with their homeland at the expense of the USA.
The article does point out that the school system seems to have improved under the leadership of the orthodox jewish community. The public school system that is. It mentions how there is afterschool tutoring, music lessons, order in the hallways, and yada yada yada, and that other school districts are trying to copy them.
The purpose is to show that this kind of takeover has been replicated by the same community in other places, including Long Island. They infiltrate the school board although their kids don’t go there, they’ll hire one of their own lawyers specializing in these tactics and pay them exorbitantly at the expense of local taxpayers, shut down public schools and force the sale of the schools to yeshivas for pennies on the dollar.
We should be cognizant of these things so that we can recognize it when it’s happening in our school districts and prevent these takeovers.
We should also recognize similar things happen in the political space whereby they infiltrate, pass laws and influence policy that favors their homeland. After coming here to insult our president, Netanyahu is asking for a 50% increase in military funding to $4.5 billion. And they’ll get it because our lawmakers and campaign contributors belong to this group whose loyalty lies with their homeland at the expense of the USA.
But that happens with any special interest group, whether it's a religious group, ethnic group, business lobbying group, pro-abortion, anti-abortion, etc. Look at all the divided opinions about US-Cuba relations among Cuban-Americans over all these years. Again, nothing to do with Long Island.
East Ramapo SD had problems prior to the Orthodox-Jewish takeover. In contrast, as SandyJet pointed out, Lawrence was previously a very highly rated school district. There has been concern for the past 20 years over in neighboring Hewlett-Woodmere that they could suffer the same fate and they did close one of their buildings some time ago due to declining enrollment. Again, very old news that was discussed very hotly as I recall when things started to change in the 80s. What happened in these school districts demonstrates a misuse of the system as this was not the original intention, even though apparently, legal.
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If you send kids to private, dont you get some exemption or credit since you dont use certain services?
If not, then I think once you become the majority of the tax payers who fund the school, then yes, you should get a big say in decisions.
But if you are doing everything you can to diminish the public service you dont use, but others depend on, and benefit the private service you do use, then that is a problem.
The only reason I can see for doing this is to make life harder for those that cannot patronize the private service you use, and basically are forcing them out of the town, block busting.
So according to your thinking those not using the public system should receive a discount on their taxes? The impact of your opinion should be the same as everyone else, one vote, whether you belong to the "majority of tax payers who fund the school" or not.
How about we eliminate your STAR exemption if you receive one or I pay less because I don't use (whatever service). Being part of society means paying your share it's probably safe to say I use very little of what my taxes cover but I still pay and I vote, my participation gives me the legal right to complain about those who got elected to office....
The article does point out that the school system seems to have improved under the leadership of the orthodox jewish community. The public school system that is. It mentions how there is afterschool tutoring, music lessons, order in the hallways, and yada yada yada, and that other school districts are trying to copy them.
What are you talking about? The podcasts described as a "Systematic defunding of all school programs". They eliminated the Business Department, Honors socities, JROTC, Home Economics, social workers fired, ended music programs, field trips, teaching assistants fired. Kindergarten was reduced from full day to half day. They even terminated their marching band, which was a source of pride, and featured in a Denzel Washington movie.
Must be an interesting dynamic in Lawrence - in Rockland, the community is Jewish, black, and Hispanic, so it's been minorities suffering the fallout of the Orthodox takeover. Lawrence doesn't have a sizable minority population, so who's getting the shaft? Christians? Secular Jews?
A link from my earlier post contained this fact about Lawrence:
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Now, the district is well over half Orthodox and only about 3,100 of the district's 7,000 students go to public school. The majority go to one of the half-dozen yeshivas in the area. Currently, 71 percent of the district's public school students are minorities — 41 percent Hispanic, 23 percent black, 7 percent Asian and 29 percent white — and nearly half of the student body qualifes for free or reduced price lunch, according to state records.
Basically what you're seeing there are people who were deposed from Williamsburg etc. because of gentrification and have found refuge in the cheaper real estate in Rockland/OC.
Basically what you're seeing there are people who were deposed from Williamsburg etc. because of gentrification and have found refuge in the cheaper real estate in Rockland/OC.
30+ years ago there was a sizeable Orthodox &/or Hassidic community in Ramapo. Some recent residents might have been displaced by gentrification and chose to move to another religous stronghold.
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