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If it happens what effect do you guys think this will have on both Nassau and Suffolk?
Officials say Northrop Grumman is considering move to Suffolk -- Newsday.com (broken link)
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Citing conversations with "parties involved in the negotiation," Ryan said the company was eyeing virtually every large, developable site in Suffolk, including those in Calverton, Yaphank, the Brentwood area and Kings Park.
We'll see, but I would be a bit surprised if they didn't just take over the 105 acres that's adjacent to their current offices.
Anyway, they should stay and expand on LI. Both counties should not let them pull any crap and move to PA, NJ, or the South. It's would be a huge boost to see the number grow from 2K to 4-5K. That would be a shot in the arm and may ignite some more engineering/IT, etc. companies to locate on the Island.
It's maddening, it's all there, the Island just has to take it.
It would seem that Northrup Grumman is attempting to light a fire under Nassau County by encouraging a bi-county bidding war between expanding in Bethpage in the Town of Oyster Bay in Nassau County versus building in Calverton in the Towns of Riverhead & Brookhaven in Suffolk County.
Bethpage in the Town of Oyster Bay in Nassau County
For those who may not be familiar with Bethpage:
Previously known as Central Park, Bethpage is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the central part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the east part of Nassau County, along the Oyster Bay/Hempstead town line.
Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Bethpage in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Plainview; on the east by the Hamlet of Old Bethpage and the Village of Farmingdale; on the south by the Hamlet of Plainedge; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Levittown (the Oyster Bay/Hempstead town line) and the Hamlet of Hicksville.
The Hamlet of Bethpage has a different border than does the "Bethpage, NY 11714" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a "Bethpage, NY 11714" mailing address and not be in the Hamlet of Bethpage and a place can be in the Hamlet of Bethpage and have other than a "Bethpage, NY 11714" mailing address): places with a "Bethpage, NY 11714" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Bethpage are in the Hamlet of Plainedge and the Hamlet of Levittown in the Town of Hempstead; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Bethpage that have a "Hicksville, NY 11801" and "Plainview, NY 11803" mailing address.
For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County):
Calverton in the Towns of Riverhead & Brookhaven in Suffolk County
For those who may not be familiar with Calverton:
Named in 1868 for Bernard J. Calvert, its first postmaster, Calverton is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) partly in the east part of the Town of Brookhaven and partly in the west part of the Town of Riverhead, in the central-east part of Suffolk County, along the Riverhead/Southampton town line and the Brookhaven/Southampton town line.
Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Calverton partly in the Town of Brookhaven and partly in the Town of Riverhead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Wading River and the Hamlet of Baiting Hollow, Town of Riverhead; on the east by the Hamlet of Riverhead, Town of Riverhead and the Hamlet of Northampton, Town of Southampton (the Brookhaven/Southampton town line); on the south by the Hamlet of Northampton, Town of Southampton (the Riverhead/Southampton town line) and the Hamlet of Eastport, Town of Brookhaven; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Manorville, the Hamlet of Yaphank and the Hamlet of Ridge, Town of Brookhaven.
The Hamlet of Calverton has a different border than does the "Calverton, NY 11933" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a "Calverton, NY 11933" mailing address and not be in the Hamlet of Calverton): places that have a "Calverton, NY 11933" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Calverton are in the Hamlet Wading River and the Hamlet of Baiting Hollow.
For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County):
It would be great to see Grumman move operations over to Calverton.
As an ex Grummanite, it would make lots of sense to move back to Calverton since that ex Navy facility probably still has the much needed infrastructure (hangers, manufacturing facilities) to support this contract whereas an upgrade of these facilities would be cost effective opposed to building new. The Bethpage facility would also support the development and test facilities since that infrastructure is still basically intact in Bethpage. I would bet that they are targeting to get these Calverton facilities at a bargain price. Maybe I'll get my old Job back at plant 31.. lol
As an ex Grummanite, it would make lots of sense to move back to Calverton since that ex Navy facility probably still has the much needed infrastructure (hangers, manufacturing facilities) to support this contract whereas an upgrade of these facilities would be cost effective opposed to building new. The Bethpage facility would also support the development and test facilities since that infrastructure is still basically intact in Bethpage. I would bet that they are targeting to get these Calverton facilities at a bargain price. Maybe I'll get my old Job back at plant 31.. lol
I have family ( several) who worked at both Bethpage and Calverton. Bethpage did lots of the construction then and they sent the planes out to Calverton to be tested. It would be nice to see them back there...
Costs are a concern but recent success in providing companies at least the chance to remain has been heartening. Canon USA just closed contract on the developer for their recently bought headquarters location which will bring the 1350 positions currently in Lake Success to mid-island with a plan to add 700 additional roles in the ensuing 7 year period. The Grumman growth would be another nice addition. It is very challenging for companies to come into this area new, if they are not already founded and/or previously grown in the region, because the sticker shock can be stifling. But for those organizations that leave the region who have an entrenched amount of brainpower who are native long islanders, they can often find themselves struggling to get the workforce built back if they move to a region that is a little too far outside a metro area. Manufacturing is a different story of course and makes little sense to keep here in most instances, but the professional losses companies like Olympus take and are still struggling to rebuild can be worse than the decision to remain. Having a close colleague in HR there (Olympus) the projected loss of up to 50% of the workforce based on the move crept up to 70%. That can be devastating. The Pennsylvania born new CEO underestimated the how strongly tied to a region Long Islanders can be...no good pizza, no move...
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For those who may not be familiar with Bethpage
