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It's not, but 100k these days is not that big of a deal. Also, try working in their conditions year after year. The weather takes its toll on you. I'm not saying it's not a good job, but most on this board couldn't cut it. They can barely use a screwdriver.
I'll agree its not for everyone. I have a good friend who is a track worker for the MTA. As with the police, the real money is the massive OT.
It's not, but 100k these days is not that big of a deal. Also, try working in their conditions year after year. The weather takes its toll on you. I'm not saying it's not a good job, but most on this board couldn't cut it. They can barely use a screwdriver.
There are plenty of blue-collar workers across the country who work in those conditions yet don't get 6 figures. Why should these guys? What entitles them to it?
If the avg wage everywhere for such workers were 100k, I'd have no issue with it since it would obviously be justified.
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Railroad employment is a "fraternity" of sorts, and an exclusive one at that.
You need to take an exam first. My BIL took the test for Subway operator (MTA) and it took 6 years later before he got called. He took the test. Sometimes it's also who you know in this line fo work. Check online when the next test is. If all you had to do was send a resume to get hired then there would be no reason to have a test. BTW it's a civil service job. I cannot believe the op did not realize you must take an exam for the RR.
more reason automation is the future. Human error has serious consequences. The days of punching ticket is a big joke.
If you pay a visit to the Automotive forum, you can find a number of threads started by over-sheltered children who have been misled to believe that a completely "self-driving" auto -- a fantasy out of George Jetson --is just around the corner.
Not likely -- too many variables, interacting (and conflicting) at an exponential rate; there will be progress, and driving will be safer, but in small increments here and there. And the same rules apply to rail operations. with a few exceptions -- an iron-mining operation in a remote part of Quebec and Labrador, a couple of mine-mouth power plants, and the completely-enclosed Grand Central-Times Square subway shuttle, railroad automation is a rarity; the lawsuit potential would be even greater if a robot, rather than a human overseer, failed to discharge its "duties".
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Railroad employment is a "fraternity" of sorts, and an exclusive one at that.
QUOTE=ovi8;46957170] Problem identified.[/quote]
Amtrak's New York Division, where I got my brief introduction to the industry, was part of the legacy of the Pennsylvania Railroad, by way of the Penn Central bankruptcy. When Amtrak assumed control in 1971, the operating department still depended mostly on a group of World War II veterans hired in the late Forties, and vey little hiring had been done since then, as the industry remained stagnant. But time and age were taking their toll, and Civil Rights reform guaranteed that a new set of rules would be imposed.
The management's response was to tighten discipline, and to add layers of redundancy -- the standard response when safety considerations intensify, and a diverse, rather than an ethnically-uniform This is a workforce with a great deal of pride and self-respect, and no place for the idiot who tries to listen to a commercial broadcast, text, and drive -- simultaneously.
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If you pay a visit to the Automotive forum, you can find a number of threads started by over-sheltered children who have been misled to believe that a completely "self-driving" auto -- a fantasy out of George Jetson --is just around the corner.
Its not around the corner but there is progress. Its a matter of when & how. Commercial jets have a lot of automation built in. Yes, there is still a need for pilot and co-pilot. I'm absolutely sure the unions will fight tooth & nails to make sure like we are operating as though we live in a black & white era
As for automobiles, I post there pretty often. Human error is still a major reason why there are accidents over malfunctioning car from the big automakers. Its quite amazing how much safety features in modern cars. Blind spot monitoring, Lane assist, sway warnings, radar cruise control, brake assist, etc....simply amazing. Of course its all useless if a driver is determine to plow into a brick wall
There are plenty of blue-collar workers across the country who work in those conditions yet don't get 6 figures. Why should these guys? What entitles them to it?
If the avg wage everywhere for such workers were 100k, I'd have no issue with it since it would obviously be justified.
Problem identified.
In NY they DO. Stop with the workers across the country. We are talking about NYC. I sense jealousy, too bad you failed the test.
There are plenty of blue-collar workers across the country who work in those conditions yet don't get 6 figures. Why should these guys? What entitles them to it?
If the avg wage everywhere for such workers were 100k, I'd have no issue with it since it would obviously be justified.
Problem identified.
That's not a fun nor easy job, what's the big issue with that salary? There are specialized blue collar jobs that pay very very well without a college degree in paper pushing. A friend of mine is a harbor pilot. He makes 600k a year, more than most high priced lawyers and brain surgeons (avg salary nationwide is 400k). 100k on LI isn't that big a deal.
Please the lirr and there glorified mta police aka security guards that you never see is an all boys network. It's all who you know.
Plenty of families, friends, and cronies getting each other work.
My neighbor openly admitted his close family member got him in. He has a nice rap sheet also . I doubt his resume was professionally prepared But it was put on the top!
In NY they DO. Stop with the workers across the country. We are talking about NYC.
Salaries in NYC should be high if you are producing, generating revenue, have a special skill, or are in demand. The money that comes in from revenue is shared, without issue. The point is people who do common or mundane jobs, especially which don't typically go for that much anywhere, should not be making 6 figures. Just because "in NY they do" doesn't mean they should. And more importantly, just because they need it to survive somewhere, doesn't mean it's justified. That's what you'd call a handout, and there's plenty of begging for it going on in NY. And by begging I mean bullying. Oh hey let's strike!
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I sense jealousy, too bad you failed the test.
If only I wanted to do such a thing. Oh for sure, I'd trade my cushy job at home now for being out there.
No the word you're looking for is disgust. That's what you should sense. I have zero respect for anyone who makes 6 figures, specifically off the public, without having earned it. Not that people like you care about respect of course.
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This is a workforce with a great deal of pride and self-respect, and no place for the idiot who tries to listen to a commercial broadcast, text, and drive -- simultaneously.
What you call pride and self-respect is what they tell themselves so they don't feel bad about shutting the doors to those not like them. Just presume any new guy will be trouble. We see it all the time all around us. Gotta look out for each other, right?
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