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Old 04-16-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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Doctor intervened and was shut down by NYS; the pharmacist said that splitting a capsule was not a good idea because you could effect the efficacy of the medicine in term of how it is released.

The big picture here is that NYS is using their computer systems to constrain critical thinking, patient privacy, and common sense. NYS makes money by becoming a Nanny State. This costs you more in terms of money, privacy, options, and outcome.
Sounds to me you are just bitter..and probably trying to feed a drug addiction. Just leave NY already if you hate it that much. You will find this 30 day law is popping up in every state now anyway with controlled substances the way things have been going with overdoses & addiction problems at a rapid increase. This is a case of the good people that really need the controlled substances....and use them CORRECTLY for the right reasons & do not share them....are paying for all the BAD people unfortunately.

Lesson to OP...never get capsules again. Ask doctor for pills that can be easily split.The Extended Release or Controlled Release (like Ambien CR) ones are never suppose to be split. Just get the regular 10mg ones & split them. We have been doing that with Ambien for many years.

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Old 04-16-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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I would suggest that the wife would sleep like a baby if she didn't live with the OP.
Love it! Probably true.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Having a Government is not a bad thing; Having a NYS / Nassau County "quality" government is a very very bad thing. There is no value in NYS government (which is both incompetent, intrusive, mismanaged, and kleptocratic.)

Lifesaving treatment in a Canadian hospital is totally accessible to anyone of any age.

General care is universal and also totally accessible. There is actually more healthcare in Canada because pharmacists provide basic care. (Something illegal in NY where highly educated pharmacists are relegated to be clerks - education racket; scarcity racket) Canada has more medical care because it uses less expensive technology on a more widely deployed basis. By applying less expensive technology to more people the net societal effect is more accretive than it is here. Canada has a higher baseline in education, healthcare, and adulthood (18 year olds can be functional adults) but it might not hit the high points. It is better to have a consistant society; rather than our society which has a few very highs and allot of very low lows (in everything from wealth distribution to medical access).

Even remote parts of Canada have healthcare because medical students are incentivised to practice in areas where needed.

For things considered non-life threatening; the Canadian system tends to prioritize younger people over older people.

Drugs cost less in Canada but you have to pay out of pocket in most cases.

Also, The Canadian system would not spend $100,000 to extend the life of someone by two months. That kind of wasteful spending is endemic in the US system. The US system provides welfare for the medical industrial complex.

In Nassau County you will find near-monopolies vastly inflating the cost of healthcare such as Zwanger; you just don't see what it is costing you because it is hidden behind insurance racketeering.


Also access to healthcare in the US in indiscriminate; you can get the best healthcare @NYU or @NYP or the worst healthcare for the same cost.

Taxes in Canada are high but you get value for your tax dollars.

Hurricane Sandy was totally unmanaged the only response was financial, even the financial aspects were criminal w insurance companies failing to pay out; fema trying to mitigate costs; and NY Rising Gosr using a block grant from FEMA to enrich friends and family of Cuomo , ; Canada has actually planned out how to manage disasters. Had Sandy really been a Cat 1 you would quickly find out that LI has third world infrastructure and no planning. LI was a minute away from having no food on the shelves. BTW your government actually blocked resupply.

In Nassau County (& NYS) you get theft, racketeering, waste, and corruption. With "medicine" this crime is just hidden from view. BTW the US spends more money (than any first world county) per capita and it gets a lesser result in terms of life expectancy and outcomes. Stop drinking the Kool-aid folks and demand some changes. You cannot sustain an economy where Finance, Medical Care,
and Government are your sole major employers.. It is Kool-aid.
And you still tolerate it in NY? Why be miserable, move.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Islip,NY
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Move already, and don't let the door hit you on the way out LOL.
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Massapequa
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So everyone here that is okay with a bureaucrat overruling a doctor about medical care is supportive of the war on drugs too right?
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Old 04-17-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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No problem with the state cracking down on unethical doctors writing scripts for addicts. The electronic control is a way to alleviate the problem. Prevents addicts from doctor hopping to get their fix which then becomes a heroin addiction when they can't afford their pills anymore.

Besides, sleeping pills, like Ambien, are over prescribed, have a rebound effect which affects coordination and thinking the next day, and their efficacy is being called into question.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elijah...b_3223347.html

You want the "freedom" to pop a sleeping pill, I would like the "freedom" of not having a over medicated groggy driver from plowing into me during my morning commute.

And with all the doctors locked up lately for over prescribing pain meds and other narcotics, maybe the medical field needs a bureaucrat overruling them or the very least, supervising them.

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Old 04-17-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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No problem with the state cracking down on unethical doctors writing scripts for addicts. The electronic control is a way to alleviate the problem. Prevents addicts from doctor hopping to get their fix which then becomes a heroin addiction when they can't afford their pills anymore.

Besides, sleeping pills, like Ambien, are over prescribed, have a rebound effect which affects coordination and thinking the next day, and their efficacy is being called into question.
The Rise of Ambien: Why More Americans Are Taking the Sleeping Pill and Why the Numbers Matter | The Huffington Post

You want the "freedom" to pop a sleeping pill, I would like the "freedom" of not having a over medicated groggy driver from plowing into me during my morning commute.

And with all the doctors locked up lately for over prescribing pain meds and other narcotics, maybe the medical field needs a bureaucrat overruling them or the very least, supervising them.
Ambien is a Schedule IV drug, so any doctor can phone it in and allow up to 5 refills. Unlike my kid's Vyvanse, which helps him focus yet I need a paper script and have to go to a CVS and hope they can fill it - if they don't have stock I need to drive to another and present the paper as it is illegal under NYS law for a pharmacy to reveal if they have stock over the phone. And I have to do this every 30 days.
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Old 04-17-2017, 05:55 PM
 
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So everyone here that is okay with a bureaucrat overruling a doctor about medical care is supportive of the war on drugs too right?
The sheep are captured, content, and complacent.

Who is pressing the prescription drug abuse propaganda Cuomo and Christie. Who is providing you with that news another Cuomo? Who is profiting from this? Have you ever seen any facts on the matter or just fear mongering by a politician (creating a problem for pander) or propaganda?

The sheep are so dumb they have not figured out that their entire life cycle is being planned out to a flow chart by the bureaucracy to support decades of debt and to enable racketeering on a grand scale Of which the Real Estate scam is a big part.

1) go to a public school and learn how to be an indoctrinated sheep
2) get a loan for "college" to study facts, forget about critical thinking (reserved for graduate programs in ivy league schools)
3) get a gold credit card (no **** AMEX is handing out these cards like candy) add some consumer debt
4) go and get that unpaid internship, or even pay for that internship
5) get that first job
6) borrow money for a car on the 8 year plan
7) establish your credit
8) buy that first fixer upper on Long Island for $525,000 most of which is debt; assume the debt from Nassau County and the State; assume $10,000+ taxes and get no value in return
9) cosign a loan for your children so they can repeat
10) pay 10k deductible+premium for "obamacare health insurance" before you get a dime back/ the whole world paying 1/5th as much are you are for the same service.
11) sit back and expect your public pension to be there(which is unfunded). For those w/o a public pension expect the state to bide for time by raising regressive taxes at every turn.

Have the nanny state tell you what to do; Moderator cut: language please !
kool-aid of LI Real Estate and expect a repeat of the above. Not sustainable, desirable.

https://www.amazon.com/Leverage-Chea.../dp/1522697942

Karl Denninger literally follows the money, tracing the path it has taken through history and discovers a shocking truth—the power to control a nation's purse strings is addictive, and when that power falls into the hands of only a select few, they will pull the levers of government and policy to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else.

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Old 04-17-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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Ambien is a Schedule IV drug, so any doctor can phone it in and allow up to 5 refills. Unlike my kid's Vyvanse, which helps him focus yet I need a paper script and have to go to a CVS and hope they can fill it - if they don't have stock I need to drive to another and present the paper as it is illegal under NYS law for a pharmacy to reveal if they have stock over the phone. And I have to do this every 30 days.
This may be a security procedure of CVS but not a legal requirement of New York State.
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Old 04-17-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Why not smoke pot.
Makes you giggle, takes away the stress and gets you goon nights sleep.
It is illegal, but hey now.
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