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Old 05-17-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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Attrition is doing it's thing.
It is a "war of attrition" (between public sector tax increases and public sector cash requirements) vs the ability of the tax paying public to pay for the same.

and I can assure you that homeowners will lose this war of attrition, one dollar at a time. Very shortly many Long Island residents will be losing or permanently locked into "their house"
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Ha, the two chief phonies appear in the 1st three comments to insinuate "LIers are doing well" since the budgets passed. hahahahahahaha. As though they have a choice. Voting NO punishes everyone more, especially the kids. But of course, that is how the manipulated system is designed to work.
It's so comforting to see the angry Long Islanders are still ranting on here.
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Old 05-17-2017, 05:48 PM
 
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It's so comforting to see the angry Long Islanders are still ranting on here.
The very best ranter is the guy who 'knows' it is time to flee Long Island now. Now! Convinced he works for a moving van company.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:35 PM
 
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According to Newsday, yesterday was the first time in history every single Long Island school district budget passed on the first attempt. Apparently the rate has been 98 to 99% lately, but not 100%. Until this year.
you're welcome!
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Long Island is affluent. A teacher and Cop in every household....... Come on guys. You can. Afford it...
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:41 AM
 
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The second best ranter is the guy who repeatedly shares his unique insight that the enormous New York City economy actually influences the economy of its suburbs.

Closely followed by the guy/girl convinced Long Island is haunted. Third place. I think the third guy/girl posts under a different name now but I sometimes confuse the three.

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Old 05-19-2017, 03:44 AM
 
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The fact that the four, sparsely populated east end towns that are primarily full of homeowners who do not have children in the schools have 20 school districts demonstrates the insane inefficiencies and graft inherent in this structure.
Please explain. This is a weird charge to make without supporting it.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:12 AM
 
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When you think of it, who is going to vote a school budget down? I see the voting population broken down as follows:

A. Anyone who works for a school, has a close relative or other family member that works for one will likely vote yes.

B. Anyone who has children in school will vote yes.

C. Senior Citizens MIGHT vote nay, if they are on a fixed income and don't have any grandchildren, etc. attending a district and/or son/daughter that works for a school or worry their property value will go down if the school district doesn't keep a good rep. And the one's who would vote nay have to be able bodied enough to get to the polls.

D. Childless Singles and Couples again MIGHT vote nay if they don't have a parent, sibling or other close relative working for a school, or nieces/nephews attending a district (or they don't care), and again, aren't concerned about losing property value. Also, some childless singles/couples may get caught up in the freedom and self absorption of their own lives (ski trips every weekend, gym five days a week, etc.) and simply not have time or incentive to get out the vote.

When you think of it along this breakdown, the School Budget Vote can seemingly take on a "Do What We Say, And Nobody Gets Hurt!" aura...
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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When you think of it, who is going to vote a school budget down? I see the voting population broken down as follows:

A. Anyone who works for a school, has a close relative or other family member that works for one will likely vote yes.

B. Anyone who has children in school will vote yes.

C. Senior Citizens MIGHT vote nay, if they are on a fixed income and don't have any grandchildren, etc. attending a district and/or son/daughter that works for a school or worry their property value will go down if the school district doesn't keep a good rep. And the one's who would vote nay have to be able bodied enough to get to the polls.

D. Childless Singles and Couples again MIGHT vote nay if they don't have a parent, sibling or other close relative working for a school, or nieces/nephews attending a district (or they don't care), and again, aren't concerned about losing property value. Also, some childless singles/couples may get caught up in the freedom and self absorption of their own lives (ski trips every weekend, gym five days a week, etc.) and simply not have time or incentive to get out the vote.

When you think of it along this breakdown, the School Budget Vote can seemingly take on a "Do What We Say, And Nobody Gets Hurt!" aura...
No doubt folks are going to vote for or against the local school budget (or for any issue or for any candidate for that matter) according to their perceived self interest.

Beyond that, the tax cap seems to have neutered any efforts at all to actually cut taxes. Don't think anyone even thinks about that anymore. Heck, the wind is out of the sails of any efforts to even defeat any school budgets.
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Old 05-22-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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^ doubtful many even know of what a fail of the budget actually means. They don't know any more than what word of mouth or hearsay would tell them. Have you ever seen your local facebook group member claim "we pay enough taxes, why don't we have _______???". Hey if these people were educated (even from message forums like this) about WHAT the majority of the taxes are for, rather than actual improvements for schools/kids, then they wouldn't have to ask the question. And the people who do know wouldn't have the urge to educate the ignorant or out the school teachers or their friends publicly. Nobody wants to do that in a local community, and understandably so.

If voting for these budgets actually meant lowering our taxes, why wouldn't people do it? Because 1) scare tactics against their childrens' well-being work or 2) the educated already know it's pointless since it doesn't affect the real expenses. Either way, it passes.
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