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Old 02-14-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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Because we are directly & endlessly paying for increasing teacher compensation out of our own pockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Without those tax breaks the gov would have much more money to put into public education. That would mean that your share wouldn't have to be as big.

It's amazing how some only realize their money is being taken away when it's absolutely obvious.
The gov is telling big companies "don't worry about it! Ovi from long island and all those insignificant people will pay everything for you".
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:50 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Without those tax breaks the gov would have much more money to put into public education. That would mean that your share wouldn't have to be as big.

It's amazing how some only realize their money is being taken away when it's absolutely obvious.
The gov is telling big companies "don't worry about it! Ovi from long island and all those insignificant people will pay everything for you".
If there was suddenly additional state/federal funds going into public education the districts would not reduce their tax obligation by $1.00, who are you kidding. After giving themselves long overdue raises all these projects like building upkeep could now be done after all its for the children....
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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If there was suddenly additional state/federal funds going into public education the districts would not reduce their tax obligation by $1.00, who are you kidding. After giving themselves long overdue raises all these projects like building upkeep could now be done after all its for the children....
Actually districts reduce spending every year to stay under the cap. No way to cover mandated contractual raises, pension and benefit increases within a 2% tax cap. This isn't "the districts." This is the teacher unions and greedy politicians who helped them secure Cadillac deals, protected by the Triborough amendment. There is a nifty conundrum...Superintendents are doing more to keep our taxes low than lying azz politicians are. Teacher unions do not like Superintendents at all. They LOVE local politicians though, donate heavily and turn out their members en masse to vote for those that deliver the goods for them.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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come on now. districts like farmingdale scare the parents after the first budget fails and they vote yes.

the compensation packages of both educators and the nassau county police (i am a resident) are ridiculous.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:08 PM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 22 days ago)
 
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Actually districts reduce spending every year to stay under the cap. No way to cover mandated contractual raises, pension and benefit increases within a 2% tax cap. This isn't "the districts." This is the teacher unions and greedy politicians who helped them secure Cadillac deals, protected by the Triborough amendment. There is a nifty conundrum...Superintendents are doing more to keep our taxes low than lying azz politicians are. Teacher unions do not like Superintendents at all. They LOVE local politicians though, donate heavily and turn out their members en masse to vote for those that deliver the goods for them.
2% is still an increase regardless of the reason and deferred maintenance then becomes an emergency bond request or waiver on the 2% cap because of the urgency of the repairs. The districts do not budget for new roofs, paving or other routine maintenance and when things are needed ......oh well.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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A reduction in income/sales tax leads to reduction in services (and possibly pay for others who are not at the high end of the scale compared to these guys). They would take away services before their own pay as well. Why would you not want to address the actual issue of our high taxes (school) first?
Yes high real estate taxes that fund teachers and police should be addressed first, just responding to the point that high salaries to certain public servants are a benefit. Since we are giving money away lets do it for everyone to help the economy instead of certain individuals assuming that is a positive in the first place.
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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In my opinion it should be subsidized by taxpayers making more. Definitely.
And what I would fight for is a fairer STAR exception, and not reducing teachers' and cops' salaries. Benefits and pensions are a different story.



Which taxpaying residents are you referring to? The ones that live in a post-war 2 bedroom or the ones that live in multi-million dollar houses in east hills? If you're referring to the later, I don't think we need to sell them anything. In the end they benefit by having a pleasant town to live in, with teachers that don't need to worry about their health or a car that breaks before getting to school, or how they can pay for daycare for their own kids.
The problem isn't the method of taxing, its the salary level and public compensation.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Actually districts reduce spending every year to stay under the cap. No way to cover mandated contractual raises, pension and benefit increases within a 2% tax cap. This isn't "the districts." This is the teacher unions and greedy politicians who helped them secure Cadillac deals, protected by the Triborough amendment. There is a nifty conundrum...Superintendents are doing more to keep our taxes low than lying azz politicians are. Teacher unions do not like Superintendents at all. They LOVE local politicians though, donate heavily and turn out their members en masse to vote for those that deliver the goods for them.
Damn Skippy. Who in their right mind voted against their own Interests????
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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Nobody, but that also means they become the opposition for those who don’t benefit from those interests.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:53 PM
 
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NYS should go over to statewide single payer healthcare. This was everyone would be covered and school districts, townships and counties would no longer have to pay high premiums to cover their employees that right now they pass on to the taxpayer.
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