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Old 01-25-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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If she's been in 20 years, she's making more than $100k, plus a raft of benefits.

Ah...I like that you end with the classic guilt trip "it's all for the children" line! I bet you don't even realize you did it!
20 years in NYC gets you 116k in 2 years it jumps to 128k. That sets them up for minimum 75k pension at 55.

20 on LI is 105k-140k depending on the district.
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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If she's been in 20 years, she's making more than $100k, plus a raft of benefits.

Ah...I like that you end with the classic guilt trip "it's all for the children" line! I bet you don't even realize you did it!
20 years to make $100k? Yikes.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:23 AM
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Yeah you can't even gas up your car and eat out twice a year for 100k. That money is an insult.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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I don't know the rest, but my wife has 20 years of experience, a masters from NYU, multiple diplomas from continuing education, and an impeccable grade (yes, they grade teachers now).
A $100k salary doesn't sound like overpay.

Maybe some people here don't want those califications for the education of our sons and daughters. But that's a whole different subject.
It's fine to debate this from that perspective, but it's a far cry from the logic/stance in your OP. In fact, this is the "go to" argument for teachers on LI to justify the pay.

What is undeniable is that teachers all over the country are doing the same exact thing for much, much less. LI does not have a monopoly on producing scholars... in fact, there's not even any indication that there are more people at the top of any profession because their LI Kindergarten teacher made $100k. People reach the tops of their professions just fine with a $30k Kindergarten teacher in AnyTown, USA.

Sure, Jericho may set records for science fair participants or many LI schools hit "Best Schools" lists from year to year. But, LI is made up of countless school districts without those accolades and they're paying their teachers similar high salaries... and in both cases (even the "exceptional" LI districts), I see no indication that LI is producing some crazy percentage of the best of the best students because of it. Look at secondary education. Some states with obviously superior state college options (I don't think anybody would argue SUNY is some nationally premier college offering overall) are graduating plenty of the greatest, brightest from their own state colleges who attended schools in their home state (did not go to public school on LI)... and they are doing it at a fraction of the cost.

So, this logic is a great soundbyte, but fails when you really dig into it.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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People reach the tops of their professions just fine with a $30k Kindergarten teacher in AnyTown, USA
In anytown USA you can buy a mansion for for 1/2 a million.
Here you get a crappy house.
You can't compare salaries across the country.

And in LA teachers with $70k salaries are in strike.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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If you all have to choose between give your tax money to teachers and cops or to a big corporation like the link I showed before, what would you choose?

Refer to the link below to see samples of those corporations:

https://mic.com/articles/85101/10-co...ers#.P7ap8JMgd

Quoting a paragraph there I think summarizes the problem we have.



The reason I started this thread is to show to you that maybe taxes that go to education and safety are in the first category. But I understand if you don't see it that way. Thanks.
Why should we have to choose between high taxes going to teachers or corporations? That’s absurd. There is no choice. I think most rational homeowners would want low taxes.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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Why should we have to choose between high taxes going to teachers or corporations? That’s absurd. There is no choice. I think most rational homeowners would want low taxes.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Instead of posting cute emojis, why don’t you explain it better so this dense homeowner can understand you? Did you not say in your post “If you all have to choose...”
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Then why do they have one Chancellor for NYC schools, who earns a “lofty” $345K, which is $100K more than they’ve ever paid? There are over 1.1 million students.
I don't know. I don't live in NYC and don't hear many LIers aspiring to NYC school standards. Maybe NYC chronically underpays, which explains why they bumped the position $100k just to match this guy's salary from Miami!
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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How is your post relevant?
I think I'm done with you after this, because I get my full dose of the dopey general public all week long and it's Friday so I'm out of steam ...but to answer your question, YOU brought up that teachers have to do CE and have a master's - the age old battle cry of how hard life is, when pretty much half the working world above sanitation collector needs to do some sort of of CE for their job.
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