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It took 3 years to fire her. And she'll probably win her job back without much trouble. Tenured teachers cannot be "fired" and go through PERB for determination. Probationary teachers usually are let go after the contract period. Rarely dismissed before except for serious malfeasance. Supposedly she had all stellar assessments/reviews by the district. Bellport will be eating this one and she'll be back to teaching and flashing in no time. Now to find that damn pic.....
I bet it Dosent even go to trial and gets dismissed.
That’s odd this tenured teacher literally was just fired. Took for freaking ever but she was fired just the same.
Could be the district wanted to can her over this embarrassment, knows the perils of gender issues, so will claim her teaching was lackluster (should they ever have to defend her termination to a judge).
Could be she was being canned on an unrelated issue but is riding this episode to try to get her job back.
Could be a board member wanted to can her to hire the board member's niece and this episode popped up.
Given the hoops she'll have to jump through (motion to dismiss, motion for summary judgment, and appeals therein) to get this case to trial we may never hear from her again. The school district lawyers will be the winner$ on this one.
Since she was untenured with no due process rights, belongs to no union, and has hired her own attorney at least we know tenure and the teachers union have nothing to do with this matter.
Could be the district wanted to can her over this embarrassment, knows the perils of gender issues, so will claim her teaching was lackluster (should they ever have to defend her termination to a judge).
She had all excellent assessments per the news outlets.
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Since she was untenured with no due process rights, belongs to no union, and has hired her own attorney at least we know tenure and the teachers union have nothing to do with this matter.
Actually the union rep already jumped in to defend her at the school level, claiming the pic is inconclusive and possibly not her. Either way, she is going to likely win on gender discrimination. Any two bit lawyer will come up with pictures from Facebook of a dozen male teachers with their shirts off and it's game over. Add the female politicos and celebrities from the "free the nipple" and other feminist movements (some whack job, some legit) who will bombard little old Bellport...and make the Bellport male admin chorus beg for mercy. She'll keep her certification and accumulated time and either be reinstated at Bellport or another district soon enough.
She had all excellent assessments per the news outlets.
Actually a union rep already jumped in to defend her at the school level, claiming the pic is inconclusive and possibly not her. Either way, she is going to likely win on gender discrimination. Any two bit lawyer will come up with pictures from Facebook of 100 male teachers with their shirts off and it's game over. Add the female politicos and celebrities from the "free the nipple" and other feminist movements (some whack job, some legit) who will bombard little old Bellport...and they will make the Bellport male admin chorus beg for mercy. She'll keep her certification and accumulated time and either be reinstated at Bellport or another district.
What? She admitted it was her that’s the basis of her lawsuit! It was a pic she sent to her boyfriend another teacher at the school.
Also where do you get it took 4 years to fire her.
“In January, she was placed on administrative leave with pay and was fired by the school board last Wednesday”
Yes the pic was taken in 2016 but that doesn’t mean that’s when the student got a hold of it. She was only placed on leave in January.
Yes non-tenured teacher’s are technically union but there is very little they can actually do for you if you are not tenured.
What? She admitted it was her that’s the basis of her lawsuit! It was a pic she sent to her boyfriend another teacher at the school.
Also where do you get it took 4 years to fire her.
“In January, she was placed on administrative leave with pay and was fired by the school board last Wednesday”
Yes the pic was taken in 2016 but that doesn’t mean that’s when the student got a hold of it. She was only placed on leave in January.
Yes non-tenured teacher’s are technically union but there is very little they can actually do for you if you are not tenured.
Please stop with the facts and logic. (She was briefly suspended then quickly fired, she was never tenured, she is no longer a school district employee, she publicly admits the photo is her [the basis of her lawsuit], she is not in a union, she has retained a private lawyer.)
The public facts seem pretty obvious. (Whether she and her private lawyer are presenting all sides of the issue is another story altogether.)
"In a letter provided to The Times, the superintendent said that among the reasons he was recommending Ms. Miranda’s termination was that she “caused, allowed, or otherwise made it possible” for an inappropriate photo to be distributed to students.
He also wrote that she had “failed to take adequate precautionary measures” to prevent the photo from getting into students’ hands.
It was unclear what measures those might have been. But Ms. Miranda said she had seen numerous male teachers post shirtless photos of themselves on social media, where they were easily accessible. To her knowledge, none of those teachers had been rebuked.
That disparity, Mr. Ray said, is at the heart of the gender discrimination claim.
“This is a woman who just takes a photo — a selfie of herself and nothing else,” Mr. Ray said. “And then from that, they manage to say that she’s done something dirty. Something sexually filthy. That’s just not what we’re about anymore in the millennial age.”
The debate over the unequal treatment of nipples has received a considerable amount of attention in recent years. Social networks in particular have been criticized for policies on nudity that restrict photos of female nipples but not male ones."
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What? She admitted it was her that’s the basis of her lawsuit! It was a pic she sent to her boyfriend another teacher at the school.
Nothing illegal about that. Immoral is a question for the courts, not the Principal.
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Also where do you get it took 4 years to fire her.
Fair enough. I'll stand corrected on that. The pic WAS sent in 2016. It's likely been seen by students for years and some adult got wind and a bug up their azz about it and started the ball rolling. It was probably with the administrators and legal team for many months before they made a decision to put her on leave. If not, even worse for them in court.
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Yes non-tenured teacher’s are technically union but there is very little they can actually do for you if you are not tenured.
She's not union or tenured. The union still defends non-members if they choose to. Maybe hoping they will pay dues and join when they can, since they legally don't have to anymore (Janus ruling by SCOTUS). One teacher boob fight impacts future teacher boobies across the profession!
You people are awfully quick to judge based solely on the word of her attorney. OJ Simpson’s lawyers said he was innocent too. That’s kinda their job.
Well they were right. Until they were presented with all that evidence.
You people are awfully quick to judge based solely on the word of her attorney. OJ Simpson’s lawyers said he was innocent too. That’s kinda their job.
What is this in reference to? She says it’s her. What is there not to believe?
I have noticed that in all the articles this has been in, nothing was said at all about how the picture got to the student.
Usually you hear teacher sent picture to student, so i'm gathering that the male adult this picture was sent to (giving benefit of the doubt) somehow sent it to the kid, or left the phone on his desk and kid found the picture and sent it to himself, etc....
If the above is how it happened and not directly from her to the student, then to me she doesn't deserve to be fired. Unfortunate yes, and she shouldn't have sent it to that male adult but its out of her hands now.
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