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It used to be back in the day, that jail was considered a deterrent to crime. That seems to have gone out the window, as the expense of keeping the "alleged" (would not want to classify them as otherwise) offenders, becomes a factor. If Cuomo and company are so worried about the economics, maybe they should look at some of the cushy jobs they have created.
Next, the lecture will be we need to rehab these folks, not punish. Yawn, rinse and repeat.
Do not even attempt to make the economic argument without considering the expense of imprisonment for those awaiting trial as well as transporting them to court appearances which far outweighs that which you forecast.
Certainly bail is a legal concept but requiring it punitively is most decidedly not.
It’s not punitive. It ensures those likely to flee face trial and those dangerous to the public do not get released on to the street. That used to be up to a judge to determine, now it’s not. What part of this don’t you understand?
You don't even know what he's currently charged with.
He was charged with bank robbery AGAIN Sherlock. They have him on surveillance footage apparently, but we wouldn’t want this poor multiple recidivist to face any sort of “punishment” before trial now would we? In fact I think we should give him a gift bag with free metro and gift cards like deblasio does!
It’s not punitive. It ensures those likely to flee face trial and those dangerous to the public do not get released on to the street. That used to be up to a judge to determine, now it’s not. What part of this don’t you understand?
It is you who fails to understand the presumption of innocence guaranteed in the Constitution. Imprisonment without being convicted of a crime violates that principal. Bail is only to be used to ensure the defendant appears in court. To have failure to meet bail as the reason to jail someone is indeed punitive as it imposes the same result as conviction.
He was charged with bank robbery AGAIN Sherlock. They have him on surveillance footage apparently, but we wouldn’t want this poor multiple recidivist to face any sort of “punishment” before trial now would we? In fact I think we should give him a gift bag with free metro and gift cards like deblasio does!
There is no such legal charge as "Bank Robbery." Find yourself a better source that tells you what law he is accused of violating. Elementary, Watson.
One day maybe you’ll get to meet the innocent people you defend who commit a robbery, grand larceny or petit larceny of a bank or drive drunk. Preferably with the presumption of innocent until proven guilty.
There is no such legal charge as "Bank Robbery." Find yourself a better source that tells you what law he is accused of violating. Elementary, Watson.
Uh yes there actually is. Try 18USC 2113 genius (and don’t even try to bring up It’s a federal charge you said there is no such legal Charge) Also Try actually reading the article.
He is now facing four felony charges for robbery in the third degree and larceny in the fourth degree
I took the liberty of highlighting his charges to make it easy for you to understand. I look forward to your idiotic reasons why it’s great he’s walking the streets right now.
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It is you who fails to understand the presumption of innocence guaranteed in the Constitution. Imprisonment without being convicted of a crime violates that principal. Bail is only to be used to ensure the defendant appears in court. To have failure to meet bail as the reason to jail someone is indeed punitive as it imposes the same result as conviction.
Lol it’s like taking to a wall. Just keep repeating your losing, incorrect interpretation of the constitution. I guess you can’t fix stupid. So I’m guessing every federal judge and every other state judge that remands hundreds of defendants daily are all repeatedly violating the constitution?
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