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Old 03-11-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Nassau County
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But only in a capacity as a food delivery person or a cleaner!!! Cuomo is an A**. What a total waste of time for them. I could see it, if they had set up a perimeter and they were serving as guards to the area, but for this nonsense and they are still letting people in and out. There is no "No Go Zone".
I read that. A “containment zone” you are free to come and go from is a joke.
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Old 03-12-2020, 10:24 AM
 
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Just to show you how selfish or stupid some people are, a guy with the Coronavirus got on a Jetblue plane at JFK and knew that he tested positive for the virus, but decided to stay on that plane anyway without using any common sense. There is a special place waiting in hell for these type of people!

“He was wearing masks and gloves. His wife was sitting in the same row as me and mentioned to others that he wasn’t feeling well,” Scott Rodman said.

“She said he had gotten a phone call with his test results BEFORE we had taken off, implying that he had a positive test but not actually saying it,” he added.


Even if he did not have Coronavirus, if you are sick enough to get a test for it or have flu-like symptoms, why the %$## would you be getting on a plane? It defies logic! If the plane hadn't taken off yet, why couldn't he have let one of the flight attendants know so he and his wife could vacate or be escorted off of the plane? Didn't this guy realize it was not a good idea to take this trip? Instead of telling the crew he was infected and be considerate of other passengers, these poor passengers had to sit on the plane with the sick guy until they landed in Florida

If I was one of the passengers that was told the information that the wife mentioned, I would have raised bloody hell to get them booted from that plane. WTF?! If anyone gets very sick I hope they sue the pants off of this guy. God only knows how many people are going to have to be quarantined now because of this.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/corona...ests-positive/

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Old 03-12-2020, 05:35 PM
 
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Just to show you how selfish or stupid some people are, a guy with the Coronavirus got on a Jetblue plane at JFK and knew that he tested positive for the virus, but decided to stay on that plane anyway without using any common sense. There is a special place waiting in hell for these type of people!

“He was wearing masks and gloves. His wife was sitting in the same row as me and mentioned to others that he wasn’t feeling well,” Scott Rodman said.

“She said he had gotten a phone call with his test results BEFORE we had taken off, implying that he had a positive test but not actually saying it,” he added.


Even if he did not have Coronavirus, if you are sick enough to get a test for it or have flu-like symptoms, why the %$## would you be getting on a plane? It defies logic! If the plane hadn't taken off yet, why couldn't he have let one of the flight attendants know so he and his wife could vacate or be escorted off of the plane? Didn't this guy realize it was not a good idea to take this trip? Instead of telling the crew he was infected and be considerate of other passengers, these poor passengers had to sit on the plane with the sick guy until they landed in Florida

If I was one of the passengers that was told the information that the wife mentioned, I would have raised bloody hell to get them booted from that plane. WTF?! If anyone gets very sick I hope they sue the pants off of this guy. God only knows how many people are going to have to be quarantined now because of this.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/corona...ests-positive/
Should he infect someone and they die as a result of the virus he should be charged with manslaughter.
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Old 03-12-2020, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Sachem is closed. Somebody tested positive.
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Old 03-12-2020, 10:09 PM
 
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Should he infect someone and they die as a result of the virus he should be charged with manslaughter.
I definitely agree with you 100%
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Old 03-13-2020, 03:32 AM
 
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I would have to think there is someone positive in every town out here by now.


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Sachem is closed. Somebody tested positive.
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Old 03-13-2020, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Union County
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Mikeykid did you load up on toilet paper and non-perishable foods yet?
I'm waiting and watching Washington, California, and New York. Those states are leading the charge. We will know soon enough where we stand - either we go the route of Italy or SK. Will be interesting to watch. LI is pretty easy to shut down - close a few bridges and VOILA!

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Not sure how you understood that from what I said, but Ok. I guess not everyone can understand what I am saying.
So, you weren't saying COVID-19 is just like the flu? You weren't saying that closing things is equivalent to "panic"? and you didn't throw in some pandemic and emergency training qualification to make it seem like you are experienced in this type of thing?

Maybe you can help clarify it for me. What would you do to slow down the infection rates of a virus that is way more contagious than the flu?

I will assume you've seen what is happening in Italy? That doesn't look like the flu to me.
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Old 03-13-2020, 07:11 AM
 
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I will assume you've seen what is happening in Italy? That doesn't look like the flu to me.
This is why -

"Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world, with a median age of about 46 years old. Nearly 60% of the population is aged 40 and over, about 23% of which is over 65 — heightening the population's risk with regards to the novel coronavirus currently spreading through Italy."

About 12% of the US is over 65, and our median age is 35. This will make a HUGE difference with respect to mortality rates.
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Old 03-13-2020, 09:05 AM
 
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This is why -

"Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world, with a median age of about 46 years old. Nearly 60% of the population is aged 40 and over, about 23% of which is over 65 — heightening the population's risk with regards to the novel coronavirus currently spreading through Italy."

About 12% of the US is over 65, and our median age is 35. This will make a HUGE difference with respect to mortality rates.



The thing is the issue is not mortality, but transmission rates and hospitalization rates. We can easily expect a million seniors to get pneumonia, not to mention the many obese (over 50%, diabetics, smokers, compromised immune system). Since we have roughly 500k-600k hospital beds available at any given time, that puts us way up a creek for health care. People being treated in hallways, deciding who gets oxygen and lives and who doesn't, health care workers taxed, sick and dying. That is what is happening in Italy. That is what will happen in America. The countries that had SARS reacted to this so much faster and their numbers are declining. The deniers and hoaxers and politically addicted did nothing and delayed us a month that will surely expound the numbers far beyond what they would have been with a semi-coherent reaction and preparations (tests kits, protective gear).
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Old 03-13-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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The thing is the issue is not mortality, but transmission rates and hospitalization rates. We can easily expect a million seniors to get pneumonia, not to mention the many obese (over 50%, diabetics, smokers, compromised immune system). Since we have roughly 500k-600k hospital beds available at any given time, that puts us way up a creek for health care. People being treated in hallways, deciding who gets oxygen and lives and who doesn't, health care workers taxed, sick and dying. That is what is happening in Italy. That is what will happen in America. The countries that had SARS reacted to this so much faster and their numbers are declining. The deniers and hoaxers and politically addicted did nothing and delayed us a month that will surely expound the numbers far beyond what they would have been with a semi-coherent reaction and preparations (tests kits, protective gear).
What I don't understand about this situation is that if states decide they don't like the current Administration, and don't want to follow their policies in other regards, why are they pointing fingers at them now?

Cuomo made a big deal recently that NY was "going to take matters into our own hands". Aren't there health professionals in NY that could have advised him back in January to take this seriously and prepare?

I understand that testing up until recently was pretty much limited to the CDC, but many other precautions (mask shortages, planned lockdowns, enforcing WFH policies, etc.) are NOT dependent on the federal government for action. After all, what's needed in NY might not be what's needed in FL. Or Alaska. Or what's needed in NYC isn't needed in Binghamton.

The fact that President Trump said anything about it being something not to worry about I would have thought should have mobilized NY, CA and elsewhere BECAUSE it was President Trump saying it. Instead there was a lot of hemming and hawing, finger pointing and now this explosive angst.

Everyone dropped the ball. At all levels of government.

I'm prepared, and able to sequester myself and my family for several weeks if needed. I'm a little short on the # of masks I'd like but I have them. I've made sure my extended family is able to do the same kind of prep and have helped some prepare. Blaming anyone else doesn't help at this stage and there needs to be some level of personal accountability.

I'm more ticked off when I see sick people getting on planes or attending dance recitals than I am irritated at what something President Trump said a week or 2 ago. And I'm certainly surprised that there is all this fake outrage with Democrat leaders across the country. Politics as usual.
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