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Not to be a jerk here but... the consistently high numbers are coming out of the same communities over and over. Even per Cuomo’s briefing a couple days ago, a majority of the deaths and new infections, are from nursing homes (due to his stupid new rule that they must take COVID+ patients back) and minority groups. And not minorities working as essential employees either - its those unemployed or staying/working from home.
Why are we all made to suffer because someone in Hempstead can’t follow the rules?
I would think a place like Hempstead which has a large Hispanic (both legal/illegal) population has the following issues.
1) Working off the books in any way they can so they aren't not being tracked if they are still working. Delis, food service etc...they are still in there working sick or not.
2) Large numbers of people living in one house and spreading it to others.
3) Using the emergency room as their primary care pre Covid and still doing so during the crisis.
Then you have other places with large black populations where folks are working as nurse's aides on and off the books, still riding the NICE bus etc. There is likely a huge undercount in the essential worker when it comes to blacks and hispanics. Most of these people in these communities do not have the luxury of working from home and in the case of illegal aliens they don't get a stimulus check or unemployment. They have to get out there and hustle somehow 2 months into the crisis. They don't have credit cards, savings, etc. to live off.
I would think a place like Hempstead which has a large Hispanic (both legal/illegal) population has the following issues.
1) Working off the books in any way they can so they aren't not being tracked if they are still working. Delis, food service etc...they are still in there working sick or not.
2) Large numbers of people living in one house and spreading it to others.
3) Using the emergency room as their primary care pre Covid and still doing so during the crisis.
Then you have other places with large black populations where folks are working as nurse's aides on and off the books, still riding the NICE bus etc. There is likely a huge undercount in the essential worker when it comes to blacks and hispanics. Most of these people in these communities do not have the luxury of working from home and in the case of illegal aliens they don't get a stimulus check or unemployment. They have to get out there and hustle somehow 2 months into the crisis. They don't have credit cards, savings, etc. to live off.
Cuomo's numbers are based on hospital admissions. The people being admitted to the hospital are self-reporting what they've been doing - working, essential work, working from home, unemployed, etc. The vast majority are reporting that they are working from home/unemployed.
So, if they're actually working in delis or as nurses aides as you say, then they're lying when they're being admitted to the hospital for COVID. I can't help but conclude that the number of minorities working in essential roles, getting sick enough to go to the hospital, and then lying about what they were doing is statistically insignificant.
PS - let me know what hospital has off-the-books nurses' aides so I can be sure never to go there.
Cuomo's numbers are based on hospital admissions. The people being admitted to the hospital are self-reporting what they've been doing - working, essential work, working from home, unemployed, etc. The vast majority are reporting that they are working from home/unemployed.
PS - let me know what hospital has off-the-books nurses' aides so I can be sure never to go there.
Illegal aliens/immigrant communities/folks paid in cash when questioned aren't going to volunteer and say yes I have been working illegally. They are going to say they were home. And in places with extremely high infection rates like Brentwood and Hempstead you probably have a good deal of illegals coming in (they aren't going to sit at home and die and the federal gov't has already said they won't be deported and NYS/downstate is sanctuary city territory).
Nurse's aides (who are often minorities) work in home health care off the books all the time...its a huge underground industry especially for elder care. I thought it was fairly obvious that I was not referring to the hospital. They often work a job at the hospital/nursing home (as that provides benefits) and then have multiple side gigs (as the pay sucks) where they are paid in cash.
Illegal aliens/immigrant communities/folks paid in cash when questioned aren't going to volunteer and say yes I have been working illegally. They are going to say they were home. And in places with extremely high infection rates like Brentwood and Hempstead you probably have a good deal of illegals coming in (they aren't going to sit at home and die and the federal gov't has already said they won't be deported and NYS/downstate is sanctuary city territory).
The government has explicitly said that they won't be arrested/deported and they're STILL lying about working? Amazing if true. I deal with illegals who get injured on the job on a regular basis, none of them ever have a problem saying that they were working, or even that they're here illegally. They don't need to, because there isn't much of anything that the government is going to do about it. They even showed up en mass to get NYS drivers' licenses when those became available, explicitly providing their addresses and illegal status right to the government. Now they're going to turn around and lie when admitted to a hospital?
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Nurse's aides (who are often minorities) work in home health care off the books all the time...its a huge underground industry especially for elder care. I thought it was fairly obvious that I was not referring to the hospital. They often work a job at the hospital/nursing home (as that provides benefits) and then have multiple side gigs (as the pay sucks) where they are paid in cash.
OK, but they're still working "at the hospital/nursing home", so why would they report that they aren't working? On the off chance that the hospital is going to look into their side hustle as a home health care aide? Home health care aides are licensed by the state as well, the state already has their information.
You're fabricating excuses to cover for the real issues of high rates of non-compliance, pre-existing medical issues, and unfortunate issues which are out of the control of these groups including poor, cramped living conditions, lax landlords, etc.
And no one is looking at a possible physiological reason for higher numbers in darker skin individuals: low vitamin D levels have been found in covid positive patients. Darker skin people routinely have lower vit d levels partly due to their higher amounts of melanin in their skin.
Could there be a connection in addition to the socioeconomic and population density issues?
Possibility. Maybe the same reason Italy got it bad too.
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And no one is looking at a possible physiological reason for higher numbers in darker skin individuals: low vitamin D levels have been found in covid positive patients. Darker skin people routinely have lower vit d levels partly due to their higher amounts of melanin in their skin.
Could there be a connection in addition to the socioeconomic and population density issues?
Data as of May 07, 2020
Posting updated at 5:00 p.m. daily
Based on data from these local hospitals: Glen Cove Hospital, LIJ Valley Stream, Mercy Medical Center, NUMC, North Shore University, Plainview Hospital, Mt Sinai South Nassau, St Francis Hospital, St Joseph Hospital, Syosset Hospital.
I appreciate the way the NYC data is presented at the above site, it's much easier to get a 'snapshot' analysis by considering.
Nassau County's raw data is there however the way it's presented is not as effective.
Thanks for posting, much appreciated.
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