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So after more research into why the lack of video learning... 2 issues:
1) Apparently there have been cases where zoom sessions have been hacked and pornography inserted. Either that or students misuse an image of their teacher similarly.
2) There are many teachers who are technically challenged.
Neither of these were openly divulged, but came to light after much discussion and teeth-pulling.
There are still workarounds to getting through to kids but I'm not seeing the effort other than sitting in front of their email and being available. Bottom line as a parent paying a ridiculous amount specifically for education - the busy-work with little intellectual engagement that has my kids on their video games or whatever else by 11am every school day is not going to cut it. The onus is on them to get it right.
I work in higher ed. Our entire IT dept is supporting our classes now. We have a schedule your assigned a block and are on call. I have to work 10 hour days m-th. We have a ton of professors who don’t like technology, we make it work. You can control who posts what in zoom chats, you have to be a paid subscriber. It’s actually pretty cheap we have 50 virtual classrooms setup each room is used 3-5x a day we are paying less than 2k a year. We record all classes for voice and presentations so students can watch again if needed. None of this is ideal, it can work if done properly in the short term.
So after more research into why the lack of video learning... 2 issues:
2) There are many teachers who are technically challenged..
That's a terrible excuse, especially with the amount of school taxes we pay for Rosyn SD. Within 1 week, my hospital system has us all set up for Televideo doctor visits, even the old time Docs have figured out how to do Telemedicine.
Our overpaid Roslyn elementary teachers remain lazy and continue to email work to our kids. Terrible
Roslyn sd at the elementary school level is doing a terrible job. Teacher emails lessons, no online, remote or interactive teaching. My wife is furious because her friends in Queens have remote teaching and they are not paying the insane school taxes we do.
For the taxes paid in Roslyn's supposed 'UNION FREE' School district, it's a joke compared to other districts that pay far less and are now a few weeks into a real remote learning curriculum.
I spoke to my kid's teacher the other day and she told me that a big reason they won't use remote learning is that many of the teachers are too old to learn how to use it, as well as 'privacy concerns', but it's mostly a skills gap from the teachers and their reluctance to learn new tools. Tomorrow is the day they're rolling out their New Phase of learning so I'll reserve judgment, but in the email to socialize the issue a few days ago it was unclear whether it will be little more than a static video recording introducing a new topic, instead of synchronous, live learning.
I don't begrudge them, but teachers are still being paid, in full, so what are they doing with all their extra free time? Parents are growing more dissatisfied with each passing day, including myself.
Here's an excerpt from an email from the superintendent from a few days ago: "From the beginning of this crisis, I have maintained that online learning could never take the place of traditional classroom instruction. The human connection is a critical part of what we do, and while online learning can be effective, it must be different. Educators train for many years to work with students in person, so this is all new to us, and we are all learning. Furthermore, technical problems are frequently an obstacle to communication. For example, many people experienced glitches in Google Classroom this past week, apparently because of the enormous increase in the number of users around the country and the world."
Reading between the lines, here's how the above paragraph reads to me: "Sorry, but many of our teachers lack basic technical skills to use Zoom and Google Classroom. So while I ask YOU the parents to roll with the punches and now do our jobs, my teachers can't be expected to adapt as quickly as I'm asking of you because they only know how to teach in live classrooms and they don't have the training to teach remotely.
^ time to hire and only retain people who can and want to still do the job of actual education regardless of the medium. If you don't know how to do it, you still should have the ability to learn how. There's really no excuse in the 21st century and having kids who are tech savvy.
Kids don't respect a coach who can't do the drills themselves...
I call BS on the issue of older teachers not knowing technology and how to use zoom.
My home district has been great with the online learning and they threw this together in a hurry. Most teachers these days do their CTL and PD through some sort of online platform, including blackboard and zoom for virtual training. I doubt you guys know how to use smartnotebook or activinspire.
My kids' former school has also been on the ball with providing activities and keep students up to speed, as much as possible without the physical contact. This includes the "specials." I don't know much about Roslyn, but here the kids can make websites using Scratch to complete social studies and literature assignments and that's in elementary school.
The younger the child, the greater the challenge for online learning.
I wouldn't expect local school districts to be particularly proficient at on-line education. (Just as I would not expect on-line education sites to be staffed and trained for brick-and-mortar schooling.)
Sites such as Khan Academy are truly expert at that skill set (and is endorsed by The College Board). Many LI students, frequently the top students, already use sites such as these throughout the year.
Best case scenario kids could move to the individual-based Khan Academy on-line model during the school closure time and transition back to a group/class setting when schools reopen.
Attempts to continue and replicate the group education model for young (and very young) children via zoom/skype/Google Hangout/etc. during this time of school closure will yield very uneven results both in terms of execution and actual learning. Although they might seem kind of cool at first.
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I wouldn't expect local school districts to be particularly proficient at on-line education. (Just as I would not expect on-line education sites to be staffed and trained for brick-and-mortar schooling.)
Sites such as Khan Academy are truly expert at that skill set (and is endorsed by The College Board). Many LI students, frequently the top students, already use sites such as these throughout the year.
Best case scenario kids could move to the individual-based Khan Academy on-line model during the school closure time and transition back to a group/class setting when schools reopen.
Attempts to continue and replicate the group education model for young (and very young) children via zoom/skype/Google Hangout/etc. during this time of school closure will yield very uneven results both in terms of execution and actual learning. Although they might seem kind of cool at first.
My younger middle schooler refuses to go on camera, and I won’t make him - as long as he’s doing his assignments and tests on time he’s good as far as I am concerned.
In NYC and it's going better than expected with my kids. A few hiccups with log-in information initially, but it's been cool since. The teachers are having video classrooms with the kids if they have any questions.
My son is in martial arts and he is currently receiving his training on-line as well, streaming classes.
Brick-and-mortar for most businesses may be deceased after this, why pay rent costs to have a facility to teach people when you can do it from home
In the future I can see new construction single family homes being built with home offices.
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Remote learning? Well when we both work, the kids are left on their own to do online assignments that aren’t really handed in or graded so basically busy work. We take turns to teach or help if they are having trouble but most of the time they go online for 15 minutes then an hour or 2 later we notice that they are either watching tv or bouncing off the walls. So yeah homeschooling and wfh don’t really mesh. That leaves the question. Why aren’t the schools doing more like providing online interactions through zoom and the like? Are they really getting paid their full salary for putting most of the responsibilities on parents who still have to work. I suppose it wouldn’t be so bad if one of us weren’t working but then why are they getting paid in full?
For the taxes paid in Roslyn's supposed 'UNION FREE' School district, it's a joke compared to other districts that pay far less and are now a few weeks into a real remote learning curriculum.
I spoke to my kid's teacher the other day and she told me that a big reason they won't use remote learning is that many of the teachers are too old to learn how to use it, as well as 'privacy concerns', but it's mostly a skills gap from the teachers and their reluctance to learn new tools. Tomorrow is the day they're rolling out their New Phase of learning so I'll reserve judgment, but in the email to socialize the issue a few days ago it was unclear whether it will be little more than a static video recording introducing a new topic, instead of synchronous, live learning.
I don't begrudge them, but teachers are still being paid, in full, so what are they doing with all their extra free time? Parents are growing more dissatisfied with each passing day, including myself.
Here's an excerpt from an email from the superintendent from a few days ago: "From the beginning of this crisis, I have maintained that online learning could never take the place of traditional classroom instruction. The human connection is a critical part of what we do, and while online learning can be effective, it must be different. Educators train for many years to work with students in person, so this is all new to us, and we are all learning. Furthermore, technical problems are frequently an obstacle to communication. For example, many people experienced glitches in Google Classroom this past week, apparently because of the enormous increase in the number of users around the country and the world."
Reading between the lines, here's how the above paragraph reads to me: "Sorry, but many of our teachers lack basic technical skills to use Zoom and Google Classroom. So while I ask YOU the parents to roll with the punches and now do our jobs, my teachers can't be expected to adapt as quickly as I'm asking of you because they only know how to teach in live classrooms and they don't have the training to teach remotely.
Sad.
I like how you quote "UNION FREE," but you should go look up what it means because it has nothing to do with labor unions.
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