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LI's historic fear of "the city" is partly to blame. One party rule and high taxes were welcomed in the last century to keep out "undesirables." Residents were just afraid of people with accents and those who didn't look like them. This fear put Nassau in particular on the road to financial perdition. As for pointing fingers, you can blame pols like former NC exec Tom Gulotta and the GOP machine. Both designed contracts for short-term electoral gain, but they knew obligations would become crippling long after they left office. Give credit where it's due.
Now the city has become more desirable, Grumman is gone and LI is stuck with bloated contractual obligations which are set in stone. That sucking sound you hear is the movement of dollars from your wallet, homeowners. They made this problem permanent, on purpose, and there will be no tax relief unless you leave. You can thank Gulotta for giving LI the richest cops in the country.
I realize this may rankle a lot of people, but it's the LI I grew up with.
Let's see how desirable the city is after this virus. High population density combined with your safety being determined by the behavior of the most stupid people living in your area may not be great selling points now.
i don't get this conversation... in capitalism, the only economy that works, you have supply and demand.. basic economics. It's an island, they aren't making more land. It is a desirable place to live, for the most part. Whats the point of this question... affordable for whom? You want to live in a desirable area? Work your butt off and afford it, like most of LI does, everyone I know in my 40+ years here are extremely hard working, motivated people, some who never finished HS but they are up at 4am and bust the back and they live in great towns... so "make" something affordable to me sounds like an underlying socialist predicate... hey i want that, but i can't afford, something must be wrong, fix it! give it to me for what i want to pay, raise some taxes to do it... blah blah... get to work!
i don't get this conversation... in capitalism, the only economy that works, you have supply and demand.. basic economics. It's an island, they aren't making more land. It is a desirable place to live, for the most part. Whats the point of this question... affordable for whom? You want to live in a desirable area? Work your butt off and afford it, like most of LI does, everyone I know in my 40+ years here are extremely hard working, motivated people, some who never finished HS but they are up at 4am and bust the back and they live in great towns... so "make" something affordable to me sounds like an underlying socialist predicate... hey i want that, but i can't afford, something must be wrong, fix it! give it to me for what i want to pay, raise some taxes to do it... blah blah... get to work!
Fair enough but discounts decades of graft, corruption, greed, conflicted contracts, partisan gamesmanship and continual tax spikes regardless of the party in office. Yeah, there's a little more to it than "whistle while you bust your azz." LI isn't top 50 in worker productivity, but it's top 5 in taxes and cost of living. We have a lot of schemes that inflate everything artificially from Teamsters to Teachers to Cops to legislators to town code gestapos, red light cameras, pay to play, assessments, and on and on. LI is a great place to live, but it's also it's own worst enemy. It's the "value" proposition that many take issue with, not whether its a good place or not.
Ex: Are our schools worth $30k+ per kid? Should a Nassau PO make over $200k? Should a homeowner have to hire an expeditor and draw up plans to put up a shed or fence? Asking for a friend.
i don't get this conversation... in capitalism, the only economy that works, you have supply and demand.. basic economics. It's an island, they aren't making more land. It is a desirable place to live, for the most part. Whats the point of this question... affordable for whom? You want to live in a desirable area? Work your butt off and afford it, like most of LI does, everyone I know in my 40+ years here are extremely hard working, motivated people, some who never finished HS but they are up at 4am and bust the back and they live in great towns... so "make" something affordable to me sounds like an underlying socialist predicate... hey i want that, but i can't afford, something must be wrong, fix it! give it to me for what i want to pay, raise some taxes to do it... blah blah... get to work!
All true, but 14,000 and up for JUST PROP TX ALONE annual and climbing (small house keep in mind) is kinda also nuts.
Fair enough but discounts decades of graft, corruption, greed, conflicted contracts, partisan gamesmanship and continual tax spikes regardless of the party in office. Yeah, there's a little more to it than "whistle while you bust your azz." LI isn't top 50 in worker productivity, but it's top 5 in taxes and cost of living. We have a lot of schemes that inflate everything artificially from Teamsters to Teachers to Cops to legislators to town code gestapos, red light cameras, pay to play, assessments, and on and on. LI is a great place to live, but it's also it's own worst enemy. It's the "value" proposition that many take issue with, not whether its a good place or not.
Ex: Are our schools worth $30k+ per kid? Should a Nassau PO make over $200k? Should a homeowner have to hire an expeditor and draw up plans to put up a shed or fence? Asking for a friend.
and how does it cost $30k+++ per child per year in NYS but other states do it very well on less than half that? smh smh
Make Nassau County one big city and split it up into 5 boroughs like NYC
It has over a million people already and its crowded so why not
Maybe you guys will get some public transportation and more businesses will come out of the deal
Better still, reattach it to Queens and call it a day.
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