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Old 04-20-2020, 08:24 PM
 
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Lets see what happens in metropolitan Atlanta in the next few weeks now that they are opening gyms, barbershops, and other "essential" businesses like nail salons. Restaurants and theaters open coming Monday.
Hopefully it goes well for them down there.
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Old 04-21-2020, 05:13 AM
 
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Lets see what happens in metropolitan Atlanta in the next few weeks now that they are opening gyms, barbershops, and other "essential" businesses like nail salons. Restaurants and theaters open coming Monday.
Hopefully it goes well for them down there.
Hold on - there’s a big difference between being allowed to reopen, with restrictions in place, and a business owner choosing to reopen as things were before.

There’s also a similar situation in GA as there is in NY - one main area with hotspots and the rest of the state with many areas with little to no cases and few deaths. Overly restricting some counties doesn’t do much to curb any spread but harms the economy more than necessary.
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Old 04-21-2020, 05:20 AM
 
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Lets see what happens in metropolitan Atlanta in the next few weeks now that they are opening gyms, barbershops, and other "essential" businesses like nail salons. Restaurants and theaters open coming Monday.
Hopefully it goes well for them down there.
What is suppose to happen? The virus isn’t going anywhere so infections and deaths are expected. However the stay at home gave hospitals enough time to prepare if necessary for another wave of patients. The stay at home wasn’t created to give the government time to “kill” or “remove” the virus. It’s as if many of you are ignorant to what’s going on. What exactly do you want states to wait for before reopening? Or are you suggesting we shut down until a vaccine is created?
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Old 04-21-2020, 05:43 AM
 
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Hold on - there’s a big difference between being allowed to reopen, with restrictions in place, and a business owner choosing to reopen as things were before.

There’s also a similar situation in GA as there is in NY - one main area with hotspots and the rest of the state with many areas with little to no cases and few deaths. Overly restricting some counties doesn’t do much to curb any spread but harms the economy more than necessary.
Do you think massage parlors will see a lot of business down there? Are schools going to reopen this spring as well?
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Old 04-21-2020, 05:50 AM
 
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Do you think massage parlors will see a lot of business down there? Are schools going to reopen this spring as well?
Schools were already confirmed to be closed for the rest of the school year. K-12 only has a month left anyway (they run August to May).

I have no idea about massage or tattoo parlors and the amount of business they expect.
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:35 AM
 
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If you are not in the NYC area (NYC-are is about 1/2 the deaths in the US) and not in a nursing home/adult care facility (about 1/5 of the deaths in the US) you may have a VERY different view on COVID-19 and so the impatience in other parts of the country is quite understandable. Economic ruin carries a very serious health risk itself.

Closing all schools and so many businesses and locking down so many communities nation-wide will probably be judged as unnecessary by future critics. Multiple factors pushed these other areas to choose lock-down rather than simply exercising prudent social distancing and zealously protecting the most vulnerable (including nursing home/long term care facilities).

Real data and real science are emerging regarding the true mortality rate of the virus here in the US. The wild projections (all of which seemed to overstate the issue BTW) on US deaths have been discredited.

The general scientific consensus regarding the NYC issue seems to be that a combination of its large size, density, mass transit, and overseas travelers made it the most vulnerable city in the US for the virus. An outlier.
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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What is suppose to happen? The virus isn’t going anywhere so infections and deaths are expected. However the stay at home gave hospitals enough time to prepare if necessary for another wave of patients. The stay at home wasn’t created to give the government time to “kill” or “remove” the virus. It’s as if many of you are ignorant to what’s going on. What exactly do you want states to wait for before reopening? Or are you suggesting we shut down until a vaccine is created?
Exactly. I don’t understand what some people think is going to happen here it boggles the mind. Anyone that thinks we are going to just go on like this until a vaccine comes out is fooling themselves.
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Exactly. I don’t understand what some people think is going to happen here it boggles the mind. Anyone that thinks we are going to just go on like this until a vaccine comes out is fooling themselves.
There's the hospital admissions curve, and then there's the number affected/dead per day curve. We're waiting on the distance from the peak of the latter to grow even further and that only happens with time. Fewer people having it means fewer people getting it. Re-opening anywhere near the peak is just completely backwards.

What's more, you open too soon and the number grows exponentially again - all of this time we've been home will have been a complete waste from a civilian perspective. Then people remain at home again from fear rather than any governor's orders. Businesses lose even more money. Even more job losses.

Now they're talking about tests for proof since you can't rely on just hospital admissions (social distancing clearly helped there). This is all what we're sitting around waiting for. https://www.covidcharts.com/ (take note of last 2 charts especially)

Since Italy is a couple weeks ahead of us, you can see how they're doing - and the chart isn't that promising yet. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/ If it were up to me, and I know this affects everybody in different ways, I wouldn't even consider anything until I see our numbers on May 15.

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Old 04-21-2020, 06:57 AM
 
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I’ll admit I don’t agree with you much but this is 100% truth. It’s amazing people are willing to just undo what we all have done the last month and dive back into this. We’re almost there and out of woods. Why have a major relapse if we can avoid it.





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There's the hospital admissions curve, and then there's the number affected/dead per day curve. We're waiting on the distance from the peak of the latter to grow even further and that only happens with time. Fewer people having it means fewer people getting it. Re-opening anywhere near the peak is just completely backwards.

What's more, you open too soon and the number grows again - all of this time we've been home will have been a complete waste from a civilian perspective. Businesses lose even more money. Even more job losses.

Now they're talking about tests for proof since you can't rely on just hospital admissions (social distancing clearly helped there). This is all what we're sitting around waiting for.

https://www.covidcharts.com/
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Old 04-21-2020, 07:28 AM
 
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What is suppose to happen? The virus isn’t going anywhere so infections and deaths are expected. However the stay at home gave hospitals enough time to prepare if necessary for another wave of patients. The stay at home wasn’t created to give the government time to “kill” or “remove” the virus. It’s as if many of you are ignorant to what’s going on. What exactly do you want states to wait for before reopening? Or are you suggesting we shut down until a vaccine is created?
I am suggesting nothing about what is "suppose" to happen. Only stating that Atlanta and its suburbs are a large enough metro area to be a model for predictions for other big cities.
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