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Old 08-02-2020, 07:18 PM
 
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You are correct, Sweden says it all. Jack.

Roughly half of Sweden's COVID-19 cases were from Care Homes. Sweden's total cases and deaths were disproportionally higher than their neighboring Scandinavian countries.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/21/...virus-strategy

Why you would propose that Sweden somehow has handled the crisis well is as perplexing as your claims regarding herd immunity.
The virus is gone in Sweden just as it is in NY (both have hit herd immunity which looks to be 15-20%). Open your eyes.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:02 PM
 
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The virus is gone in Sweden just as it is in NY (both have hit herd immunity which looks to be 15-20%). Open your eyes.
There is NO "herd immunity."

If you think the virus is permanently "gone" anywhere on Earth you either are out of touch with reality or are attempting to deceive people.

Which is it?
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:19 PM
 
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There is NO "herd immunity."

If you think the virus is permanently "gone" anywhere on Earth you either are out of touch with reality or are attempting to deceive people.

Which is it?
Someone here is being disingenuous and it ain’t me. Did I say it was permanently gone from earth? No. When I say gone, I am referring to the pretty much non-existent rates in NY and Sweden right now which is not disputed. This despite the fact that in NY’s case we see multiple instances of groups of people flaunting social distancing with no ill effect. Is it magical unicorn dust or simple logic that the virus plowed through here in April and now we have some semblance of herd immunity? What’s happening in Arizona now? Unicorns? No, the virus ran though enough of the population where it can’t spread effectively any longer. Herd immunity.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:38 PM
 
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Someone here is being disingenuous and it ain’t me. Did I say it was permanently gone from earth? No. When I say gone, I am referring to the pretty much non-existent rates in NY and Sweden right now which is not disputed. This despite the fact that in NY’s case we see multiple instances of groups of people flaunting social distancing with no ill effect. Is it magical unicorn dust or simple logic that the virus plowed through here in April and now we have some semblance of herd immunity? What’s happening in Arizona now? Unicorns? No, the virus ran though enough of the population where it can’t spread effectively any longer. Herd immunity.
Anecdotes about "people flaunting social distancing" are just that, anecdotes that prove nothing.

You simply cannot find any scientific reports of recognized herd immunity occurring for this virus.

So, have you been duped or are you trying to dupe others?
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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Anecdotes about "people flaunting social distancing" are just that, anecdotes that prove nothing.

You simply cannot find any scientific reports of recognized herd immunity occurring for this virus.

So, have you been duped or are you trying to dupe others?
You're no more or less credible than anyone posting on this forum (I'd say less), the haughty attitude is neither necessary nor welcome. You're not an investigative reporter, a scientist, or a doctor. You're someone who got tired of nagging their husband/dog and decided to pretend to be a truth seeker on the Internet.
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Old 08-03-2020, 02:52 AM
 
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With millions infected (and the most vulnerable killed) in the NYC area, the virus now spreads very inefficiently around here. Given antibodies and T-cells. Other areas with far lower infection rates are greener pastures for the Covid virus.

FWIW, I assume the CDC guesstimate that the real infection number is 10x the reported number to be on the high side for rural areas with little viral activity and an underestimation for dense/walloped areas like NYC-area.
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Old 08-03-2020, 06:39 AM
 
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The Jim Jordon/Fauci testimony sums it all up. Search on YouTube if you didn’t see it.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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You're no more or less credible than anyone posting on this forum (I'd say less), the haughty attitude is neither necessary nor welcome. You're not an investigative reporter, a scientist, or a doctor. You're someone who got tired of nagging their husband/dog and decided to pretend to be a truth seeker on the Internet.
Just put her on ignore, and don't answer her. The less people take the bait the better.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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You're making commentary with no context, facts or knowledge.

Which is absolutely of zero help.
Yes, you are once again correct. Or maybe not.
Please double check my math. I'm going with the current confirmed counts until the Redfield estimate of 10 times more is confirmed.

Number of deaths divided by population of the USA

157,179 /328000000=0.000479 (.0479%)

Current number of cases divided by population of the USA
2400000 /328000000=0.00731707317 (.07%)

Last edited by ClarkStreetKid; 08-03-2020 at 11:18 AM..
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:04 AM
 
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Yes, you are once again correct. Or maybe not.
Please double check my math.

Number of deaths divided by population of the USA

157,179 /328000000=0.000479 (.0479%)

Current number of cases divided by US population
24000000 /328000000=0.0731707317 (0.7%)
Don't you need

Current number of indivduals who have been tested/Current number of people in the US?

And Current number of indivduals who have been tested/Current number of people infected?
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