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02-13-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gx89
Long Beach is a lost cause. They don’t want anything over there. Anything built in LB is guaranteed to start at 1m. Either high end condos or very large homes on water. LB doesn’t have a terrible reputation, pockets are run down. And is always a flood risk.
Commercial space is dead. We are never going back to the offices! There is tons of office space on 110 and Jericho turnpike that will be repurposed. Prob the last thing LI needs.
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Plus as we have seen, the City will fight just about any build, even completely legal ones, if it threatens the ocean view. And even on the brink of bankruptcy and on the hook for a $130 Million judgment for exactly that, they'll continue to do the same thing because it helps to pick up a few votes. |
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02-13-2021, 07:33 AM
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Location: Nassau County
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Originally Posted by rocafeller05
What?
If they don’t pay then the town repo’s the house.
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If it’s a section 8 home (and many in Hempstead are) then no they aren’t paying property taxes. The taxpayer is, and the slumlords that own dozens of houses get rich off it. |
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02-13-2021, 12:28 PM
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Location: On the Great South Bay
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Gentrification Along South shore coast
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Originally Posted by Punkster55
Heya folks,
Over the years I've seen ToB and ToI get better and better and only one thing comes to mind - gentrification. Even central island hoods are popping out new stores and condos. Since this island isnt getting any bigger, I wonder if developers would ever gentrify anything south of the sunrise.
We have the best beaches and decent proximity to ... well now NYC isnt worth anything so cant say proximity to anything other than family - if they say.
Do you guys think that developers will build here despite the terrible politics and laughable high cost of living? It would be cool for something good to finally happen here but I'm not sure if it's giving this dying island too much optimisim.
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I am not sure if I agree with what you are saying, across most of the South Shore from like Baldwin eastward out to say Bellport, the areas south of Sunrise are pretty nice. Indeed, the majority of Long Island's poorer communities are NOT south of Sunrise, they are instead toward the center of the Island.
Take Baldwin vs Baldwin Harbor on the water. And then basically continue that eastward to at least Bellport, with only a few exceptions the areas are nicer toward the water.
Btw regarding politics, if developers can handle NYC machine politics, then Long Island politics are a piece of cake. |
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02-14-2021, 09:38 AM
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The word “gentrification” makes my skin crawl.
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03-20-2021, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Punkster55
Heya folks,
Over the years I've seen ToB and ToI get better and better and only one thing comes to mind - gentrification. Even central island hoods are popping out new stores and condos. Since this island isnt getting any bigger, I wonder if developers would ever gentrify anything south of the sunrise.
We have the best beaches and decent proximity to ... well now NYC isnt worth anything so cant say proximity to anything other than family - if they say.
Do you guys think that developers will build here despite the terrible politics and laughable high cost of living? It would be cool for something good to finally happen here but I'm not sure if it's giving this dying island too much optimisim.
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The Town of Islip has approved a development called Heartland Town Square in Brentwood which is supposed to be mixed use residential development which will be walkable to transportation and stores/offices. It is approved for the entire 452 acres of the old Pilgrim Psychiatric Center and is supposed to have about 3,500 units. Who knows when the construction will actually start though. |
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03-21-2021, 06:51 AM
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Location: *
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Originally Posted by Punkster55
Heya folks,
Over the years I've seen ToB and ToI get better and better and only one thing comes to mind - gentrification. Even central island hoods are popping out new stores and condos. Since this island isnt getting any bigger, I wonder if developers would ever gentrify anything south of the sunrise.
We have the best beaches and decent proximity to ... well now NYC isnt worth anything so cant say proximity to anything other than family - if they say.
Do you guys think that developers will build here despite the terrible politics and laughable high cost of living? It would be cool for something good to finally happen here but I'm not sure if it's giving this dying island too much optimisim.
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"NYC isn't worth anything"? Ridiculously not true.
LI is not dying, it will still be here, & it will still be a desirable place to live, long after all of us here now are gone.
So yes. |
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03-21-2021, 07:15 AM
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Location: Stony Brook
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Originally Posted by hotkarl
The word “gentrification” makes my skin crawl.
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Its run its course. It doesn't even mean what it used to. |
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03-21-2021, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest
"NYC isn't worth anything"? Ridiculously not true.
LI is not dying, it will still be here, & it will still be a desirable place to live, long after all of us here now are gone.
So yes.
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Yup. LI could get way more expensive & ppl would still come |
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03-21-2021, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest
"NYC isn't worth anything"? Ridiculously not true.
LI is not dying, it will still be here, & it will still be a desirable place to live, long after all of us here now are gone.
So yes.
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If the state actually does these tax hikes they are talking about. It will be the nail in the coffin for the state. The very wealthy and finance will just leave eroding the tax base. Then we can become a welfare state and get more federal aid. |
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03-21-2021, 08:20 AM
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Location: *
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Originally Posted by Jdawg8181
Yup. LI could get way more expensive & ppl would still come
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Agree.
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Originally Posted by gx89
If the state actually does these tax hikes they are talking about. It will be the nail in the coffin for the state. The very wealthy and finance will just leave eroding the tax base. Then we can become a welfare state and get more federal aid.
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