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Old 03-20-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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Defund the police, fire the detective take his pension Nassau cops can NOT go into another jurisdiction and shoot a man in his own home Proper protocol calls for suffolk police to arrest the man and extradite him to nassau . The man was clearly defending himself against and ILLEGAL entry into a home by a police force out of it's jurisdiction https://nypost.com/2022/03/20/long-i...copiague-home/
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Old 03-20-2022, 06:48 AM
 
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Is it common practice to demand that the police are defunded and call for officers to be fired because they interview a person who isnt in their district? From what I can tell from the article that is the only thing the police did wrong. The man who was shot charged the officers with a knife.

Charging the police with a knife generally will not end well for a person.

Also, per the article, the police did not go to arrest him, they went to talk to him.
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Old 03-20-2022, 06:51 AM
 
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Is it common practice to demand that the police are defunded and call for officers to be fired because they interview a person who isnt in their district? From what I can tell from the article that is the only thing the police did wrong. The man who was shot charged the officers with a knife.

Charging the police with a knife generally will not end well for a person.
If a plain cloths cops from another jurisdiction come to your home without a warrant, an american citizen has ever right to kill the officer if he enters his home. There was a supreme court case about this not to long ago. The cops are off duty when they leave their jurisdiction
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Old 03-20-2022, 06:54 AM
 
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If cops from another jurisdiction come to your home without a warrant, an american citizen has ever right to kill the officer if he enters his home. There was a supreme court case about this not to long ago
If they break in perhaps. However, that isnt indicated in the article. Is there more information to be found on what happened? And no, police do not need a warrant to come to your house. They can knock on the door and ask you questions. They need a warrant to search your house. If you let them in then that changes things.
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Old 03-20-2022, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Smithtown, NY
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Someone’s been watching too many episodes of Cops. You don’t have to extradite anyone from another county in the same state. You don’t need a warrant to speak to someone. Charging the police with a weapon will always end horribly.
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Old 03-20-2022, 07:29 AM
 
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Someone’s been watching too many episodes of Cops. You don’t have to extradite anyone from another county in the same state. You don’t need a warrant to speak to someone. Charging the police with a weapon will always end horribly.
They key word is jurisdiction. Once out of their jurisdiction they STOP BEING COPS AND BECOME CITIZENSOff-Duty Authority "Individuals employed as police officers typically carry their police powers 24 hours a day in their jurisdiction, whether they're on the job or not,"
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Old 03-20-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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Because of the action of one, off duty officer, an the entire department has to be defunded?

What kind of looney Leftist knee jerk logic is that?
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Old 03-20-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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They key word is jurisdiction. Once out of their jurisdiction they STOP BEING COPS AND BECOME CITIZENSOff-Duty Authority "Individuals employed as police officers typically carry their police powers 24 hours a day in their jurisdiction, whether they're on the job or not,"
From what I can tell, you are incorrect.

https://www.grahamdefense.com/blog/2...me-from-anoth/

The important part is, "Detectives are allowed to travel throughout the country to interview or talk to anyone they choose. There is no license or special authority required for that. However, it is customary for the police to notify the local jurisdiction they are visiting as a matter of courtesy."

It really is starting to seem like you have a beef with the police in general and you are just looking for an excuse to bad mouth them in this incident.
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Old 03-20-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Because of the action of one, off duty officer, an the entire department has to be defunded?

What kind of looney Leftist knee jerk logic is that?
It is the logic of a person who has had issues with the police in the past and is looking for a reason to badmouth the police no matter the circumstances.
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Old 03-20-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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Default Facts matter

Broke&30 claims that Nassau cops shot a man "in his own home without a warrant" and that the man "was clearly defending himself against and ILLEGAL entry into a home by a police force out of it's jurisdiction." If those were truly the facts, I might have shared his outrage. But the facts, as reported so far, tell a very different story. Facts matter. "Alternative" versions of the facts don't cut it for me.

According to Suffolk County's press release, "Nassau County Police Department detectives were interviewing a 39-year-old man outside of his residence" when he "charged at and threatened investigators with a knife and was shot by detectives" [https://scpd.suffolkcountyny.gov/pre...r=2022&id=ter]. Until a different credible version of the event comes out, I'm inclined to accept the police reports and assume the police acted properly OUTSIDE of someone's home when facing an imminent threat. It's certainly not a reason to "defund" the police.
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