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So why is it that I am being tagged as "a highly unethcial buyer" by the REA's on this board if in fact the seller wants to negotiate directly with me - - at the point where his contract expires? I dont understand why ethics have anything to do with me since - - if what you say is correct - - they are going to have to pay the commission to both mine and his previous agents.
You're right - it really is the seller who is contractually obligated here but it was you who posed the question of ethics originally. You must have had some doubts to ask it. So I'm not sure why you are surprised by those that said yes, it is unethical. If your conscience is clear then that's your answer.
I have no idea who argues with you. If an offer is made it MUST be presented. Period, the end.
I'm not arguing with anyone. I merely raised a few questions for the readers to think it through. You have been on this board for some time and I am sure you have came across a few threads regarding making offers. Here are a few I dug up -
I'm not arguing with anyone. I merely raised a few questions for the readers to think it through. You have been on this board for some time and I am sure you have came across a few threads regarding making offers. Here are a few I dug up -
I didn't read them or post in them. I had time today to post but I don't always. No matter what.....no one is stopping you or anyone else from making an offer. Will the homeowner accept it? Well if it's ridiculously below the asking price --probably NOT...but if it's reasonable they might consider it. And then again....if you are the ONLY Person who made an offer, they are desperate and the clock is ticking on another mortgage and or tax payment for them....maybe they'll consider it??? One never knows unless they try, right? I hear all the time how people want to kick themselves for not accepting an offer they got and then never received another offer like it again.
It's a buyers market. Take a chance.
But when it's the other way around....like it was...when people were paying OVER the price listed because of more than one offer.....well, than don't complain either.
If I was looking for a house I would start shopping now. As long as you have proof you can get a mortgage with a high credit score as proof as well......go for it.
Best of luck to you I'm sure you'll get something very very nice!
no no no no no and no. But it sure sounds like something you would do since you have thought of all of this!
Wow, you are a piece of work and I wouldn't want you to sell me a house a car or insurance. And I certainly hope you actually find a nice realtor to help you buy a home one day....you should be so lucky!
You are a very mean spirited person.
I am a mean-spirited person?????? Im a piece of work??? Did I start the flaming here? Go back and read the postings from the beginning if you so desire...I simply asked a question (read the first posting) and I obviously struck a raw-nerve with THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS trolling on this board trying to "protect their interests"
As a matter of fact, #'s 3-5 above happened to us this past weekend.
You need to "up your training" Gigi because you seem to have fallen far behind the curve as to what is actually happening out there and what your fellow realtors are doing just to "Get a sale"...
Why are you openly advertising on this chat board anyway?
I am a mean-spirited person?????? Im a piece of work??? Did I start the flaming here? Go back and read the postings from the beginning if you so desire...I simply asked a question (read the first posting) and I obviously struck a raw-nerve with THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS trolling on this board trying to "protect their interests"
As a matter of fact, #'s 3-5 above happened to us this past weekend.
You need to "up your training" Gigi because you seem to have fallen far behind the curve as to what is actually happening out there and what your fellow realtors are doing just to "Get a sale"...
Why are you openly advertising on this chat board anyway?
Yes, I use my real name. I think that if more people did not hide behind the anonymity afforded by using fake names, we would not see as much hateful talk as we do on this board.
You are not just using your name here, you are openly and willingly advertising that you are a Real Estate Agent that operates out of an office in East Northport.
Thus....you are shilling for business on this board....nothing more, nothing less.
You're right - it really is the seller who is contractually obligated here but it was you who posed the question of ethics originally. You must have had some doubts to ask it. So I'm not sure why you are surprised by those that said yes, it is unethical. If your conscience is clear then that's your answer.
I'm not arguing with anyone. I merely raised a few questions for the readers to think it through. You have been on this board for some time and I am sure you have came across a few threads regarding making offers. Here are a few I dug up -
Sorry all....but I have to laugh.....I just read the posts by the Realtors on these threads.....it is OUTRAGEOUS what they are saying.....buyers...BEWARE
Examples:
1) MOSER STATES: "Dont even bother offering below $100,000 less then a list price - - it will never be accepted". Lets just take one example here since I dont have the time: 78 The Serpentine in Roslyn Estates sold for $150,000 BELOW LIST PRICE. Listing in Sept 2007 at $990, Sold in Feb 2008 for $840. I looked at it: a gorgeous ranch, pristine condition. OVERPRICED BY REALTOR AND SELLER TO BEGIN WITH...sold when they all came to their senses as to its value in the market. We should have LOW BALLED MR MOSER !!!!!!!!!!...we are still kicking ourselves (LOL
2) MOSER States: Media uses scare tactics telling everybody that RE is terrible in CA, NV and Az...but it is really a local issue - - so dont worry Long Island Buyers: we still will get you to PAY THRU THE NOSE. What absolute, unadulterated NONSENSE. Inventory is at its ALL TIME high on LI. And as for houses in current contract, simply go to Laffy.com and look at their listings in contract......pretty paltry stuff.....and the selling season is generally over in a week. Sorry Mr. Moser - - get out of your dreamworld and start admitting that things dont look so good for your commissions right about now....or over the next few years at least.
3) MOSER AND BOWMAN state that Listing discounts are at 4-6% in areas???? Why dont some of you download PrudentialElliman's Q1 and Q2 market reports. Listing discounts on North Shore were between 7.8 - 13.2% SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR!!!!!!
Potential Buyers on this board beware........Be very aware...... Do your research....dont listen the unobjective propoganda here......
Last edited by hurrahs80; 07-23-2008 at 05:27 PM..
Scary concept.....a REA standing by what they say............
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I'm sure you'll get something very very nice!
