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Long Island: election, president, Obama, taxes, real estate.

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Old 08-25-2008, 04:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nancy thereader View Post
You're probably too young to remember Nixon-Kennedy in 1960 and the youth reaction to that race. Lots of parents also found that to be disturbing.

Gosh, even I'm too young for that.
You'll get there. It takes less time than you can ever imagine.

 
Old 08-25-2008, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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Definitely Obama. Lot of reasons why, partly because he supports us teachers, and his views on Iraq.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I don't know if he is purposefully doing that, but his image sure beats the hell out of what Bush and McCain present.
Does it ever.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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Bob Barr. I just can't bring myself to vote for either of the other two.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Default sorry but I have to

Is your candidate going to win?When an independent runs and everyone knows that the individual will only get maybe 1% of the vote does it pay to vote for them-----hell no! If in the Bush/Gore election if no independent ran maybe our economy would be different today---maybe. Not voting or voting for a candidate that OBVIOUSLY will not win is just throwing it away.Even though I support Obama,unless your voting for him or McCain its as if you're not voting at all.Proving that a candidate can get 1% or 2% might prove a point but doesn't put that candidate in. Please take my advice pick 1 of the 2,find out their policies and choose wisely.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Obama is difinately far from perfect, but I want know part of an administration that will resemble the one we've had for the past 8 years.

McCain has been on the stump for months stating that Obama is an out of touch, arugula eating elitist, yet he literally can't recall how many homes he owns. McCain spends more just to maintain his properties: $277,000 than the average value of an American home: $266,000.

I'm not turned off by McCain's wealth, it's the fact that he's a lying hyocrite that repulses me.

He wants to extend the Bush tax cuts that only benefit the wealthiest 2% of the country. He also wants to cut the corporate tax rate from 35 to 25%; never mind that 2/3 of American corporations don't even pay corp taxes at it's current rate. They record profits overseas and lossed in the U.S to avoid doing so. Just more low hanging fruit for McCain's rich buddies. He also voted for that corrupt bankruptcy bill which was virtually written by the banking and credit card industry to the detriment of the middle and lower class.


Those are elitist policies my friend, whether he owns one house or one hundred houses.

PS: Ans BeeHave, I guess you don't care about affordable healthcare and more college tuition aid for the kids either.

Only one of the candidates is an advocate of both. I couldn't care less if he was caught taking pictures with Madonna and Snoop Dog, but I digress.
That's OHBeeHave to you Seann with two Ns

Bear in mind my first post: it's not so much as who I am voting for, rather who I am voting against. Whoever inflicts the most damage with their policy will be the one I vote against.

Have we had a perfect administration in the past 25+ years? Not that I condone mediocrity but either candidate is going to give us the same ole stuff. It's a question of how you like it served up: steaming plate of liberal goulash or well aged not so conservative stew.

McCain and Obama can point fingers and backbite all they want. We are the ones who have to sift through the malarkey.

Affordable health care: People have been told to look into the Massachusetts model -- it's a state version but has been eyed as an example for nationalized health care. While it has 71% of the uninsured now covered, it is not without cost.
Progressive States Network | Mass Health Care Plan Proves Costly to Individual Citizens (http://www.progressivestates.org/journalists/532/mass-health-care-plan-proves-costly-to-individual-citizens - broken link)

College tuition aid for whose children? Long Islanders are considered rich as opposed to much of the country -- does anyone have the percentage of LIers who fell into the AMT as opposed to those throughout the country? Perhaps the poorest of the poor on LI will realize some form of college tuition aid, but for most LIers -- start saving your money.

What is this wealth redistribution? And where is the cut off between the haves and the have nots?

Obama's Trillion-Dollar Spending Plan - Capital Commerce (usnews.com)

The fact that Obama did not support a law in which hospitals should care for infants who were born alive during an abortion makes him rather cold in my eyes. Those babies were left to die, often alone, after a 'failed' abortion. I support abortion rights, but if a child is born alive -- make him or her a ward of the state and give them a chance to continue to live. Being born alive and then left to die without treatment is murder.

I'm not a war supporter, don't believe we should be sending out copious amounts of foreign aid. We have a mess in the country and need to address that first and foremost. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is wrong as is the Robin Hood approach. Big business needs to be reigned in, and taxed appropriately. No more shelters and any that out source to another country should be subject to additional tariffs.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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http://www.republicmagazine.com/maga...-Magazine8.pdf

Hey Lance....I CAN NOT vote for Obama or McCain. Period. The End. So don't try and tell me that I HAVE to vote for either one of them. It's a free country last I heard (not for long with guys like this running the engine --socialism vs facism--.

Nope, I'm not voting for either one. Why not read that article above and see whom each is connected to?

I'd vote for Ron Paul but he won't be on the write in ballot....so right now Bob Barr is my only Conservative choice.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I'm not sure. IMO, if these two men are the only ones to choose from for President, I'm scared for the future of this country. Amen!
 
Old 08-25-2008, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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Originally Posted by OhBeeHave View Post
That's OHBeeHave to you Seann with two Ns

Bear in mind my first post: it's not so much as who I am voting for, rather who I am voting against. Whoever inflicts the most damage with their policy will be the one I vote against.

Have we had a perfect administration in the past 25+ years? Not that I condone mediocrity but either candidate is going to give us the same ole stuff. It's a question of how you like it served up: steaming plate of liberal goulash or well aged not so conservative stew.

McCain and Obama can point fingers and backbite all they want. We are the ones who have to sift through the malarkey.

Affordable health care: People have been told to look into the Massachusetts model -- it's a state version but has been eyed as an example for nationalized health care. While it has 71% of the uninsured now covered, it is not without cost.
Progressive States Network | Mass Health Care Plan Proves Costly to Individual Citizens (http://www.progressivestates.org/journalists/532/mass-health-care-plan-proves-costly-to-individual-citizens - broken link)

College tuition aid for whose children? Long Islanders are considered rich as opposed to much of the country -- does anyone have the percentage of LIers who fell into the AMT as opposed to those throughout the country? Perhaps the poorest of the poor on LI will realize some form of college tuition aid, but for most LIers -- start saving your money.

What is this wealth redistribution? And where is the cut off between the haves and the have nots?

Obama's Trillion-Dollar Spending Plan - Capital Commerce (usnews.com)

The fact that Obama did not support a law in which hospitals should care for infants who were born alive during an abortion makes him rather cold in my eyes. Those babies were left to die, often alone, after a 'failed' abortion. I support abortion rights, but if a child is born alive -- make him or her a ward of the state and give them a chance to continue to live. Being born alive and then left to die without treatment is murder.

I'm not a war supporter, don't believe we should be sending out copious amounts of foreign aid. We have a mess in the country and need to address that first and foremost. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul is wrong as is the Robin Hood approach. Big business needs to be reigned in, and taxed appropriately. No more shelters and any that out source to another country should be subject to additional tariffs.

excellent post!
 
Old 08-25-2008, 06:28 PM
 
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McCain because after Bush's first term, I don't want one party in charge of legislature and executive branch. You need checks and balances.
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