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Old 08-29-2008, 10:39 PM
 
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Rochester does have some of the best in the country Brigton and Webster are all nationally recognized.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: LeRoy N.Y.
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Did you know.rochester ny and brockport ny are not called upstate ny, but are called western ny.i'm from leroy ny,birthplace of jello.look it up!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:57 PM
 
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Western NY is a subsection of upstate. Most LIers don't like being lumped in as part of downstate either, but everything is upstate or down. I'm sure it offends you to be lumped in with Albany, Syracuse, et al but such is life.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:58 PM
 
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Upstate isn't that bad. Yeah, we get a lot of snow, depending on what part you are in, but we still have 4 legit seasons. People are generally friendly, it's pretty safe, good schools, fresh air and so on. I think the job market could be better though. It's not hopeless on the other hand, either.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:59 PM
 
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Oh, by the way, Western NY is still Upstate NY.
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Rochester got hit by problems at Xerox and Kodak, which is partly why it's still relatively cheap. Its economy is good by upstate standards but lagging behind downstate.

Snow wise: Rochester averages 95" a year, Syracuse 116". Both have a perennial lack of sunshine. (I went to the U of R for 2 years; one of my sisters went to Syracuse, so a reasonable familiarity with both cities). You will have weeks where there is no sun. The wind comes off the lake and it is COLD. As upstate cities go, Rochester is one of the nicer ones but it's not what I would call a strong slate of contenders.
The average snow is just that--an average.The last couple years they were barely hit and Kodak was quite some time ago.I am also guilty of calling it upstate instead of western NY.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:04 AM
 
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The average snow is just that--an average.The last couple years they were barely hit and Kodak was quite some time ago.I am also guilty of calling it upstate instead of western NY.
Just clear things up. Syracuse's average comes from the airport. Syracuse's airport is located 5 miles north of downtown....which is halfway to Oswego County. Central parts of Oswego County receive upwards of about 180 inches of snow each year.

DeWitt, Fayetteville, Manlius, and Camillus....the major eastern and western suburbs of Syracuse receive on average roughly the same amount of snow as the Rochester airport...which is located in Chili. The suburban Town of Chili, outside Rochester, is actually a suburb that receives less snow than many other suburbs of Rochester...like Greece, Webster and other suburbs closer to Lake Ontario.

So when you are comparing snowfall amounts in Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse... make sure you know exactly what town you are speaking about since lake effect snow is so localized.

Buffalo and Rochester residents love to point to Syracuse and say “that city gets much more snow". Yes, Syracuse's airport does receive more snow than Buffalo's or Rochester's airport....about 15 to 20 inches more a year. The problem is that other suburbs of Buffalo and Rochester receive about the same amount of snow as Syracuse's airport...if not more. For example...the southern suburbs of Buffalo...Orchard Park, and Hamburg get substantially more snow than northern Cheektowaga...where Buffalo's airport is located. And as I explained, there are suburbs of Syracuse that receive about the same amount of snow that are reported from both Rochester's airport and Buffalo's airport each year.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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I went to school in Cortland and could NEVER live up there. Way too cold and way too much snow. Couldn't believe it could be that much of a difference compared to Long island. That's considered a "large" city by upstate standards--I found it really boring with nothing to do.

All the people I met from upstate always argued about what was considered "upstate" NY. I told them everything above Westchester county is upstate. I can't stand when people tell me that i'm wrong and that they live in western NY, central Ny, whatever...it's all the same to me--upstate! lol
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:55 AM
 
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I agree. Cortland and Ithaca are small towns. Whoever disagrees with that is from the boonies. Cortland's county is only 50,000 in population...my little suburban town is even larger than that. Ithaca's metro is only 100,000. Just Syracuse's northern suburbs are over 150,000.

New York State is divided between Upstate and Downtown. Upstate NY has regions and Downstate has regions. The regions Downstate are NYC, Long Island and the Lower/Middle Hudson Valley. The major regions in Upstate are Western NY, Central NY, the North Country, the Capital District, the Mohawk Valley, and the Southern Tier. Sometimes people call portions of the major regions other names like the Finger Lakes, the Adirondacks, the Niagara Frontier, the Thousand Inlands, and the Catskills.
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Old 08-30-2008, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Most peoples perception including my own is if it is not on long island and NYC then its upstate. From the southern tip of the main part of the state up.
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