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You are confusing the STAR reduction with the STAR rebate checks.
The STAR reductions off your tax bill (Basic STAR, Enhanced STAR, Aged/Senior STAR) are not being touched.
What the new budget proposal is talking about are the STAR rebate checks that have gone out this year and last year. That is a new program that was added just recently. It is based partly on your income as well as your property tax bill.
How much of a STAR reduction you get off your tax bill depends on what township you live in. For instance, Smithtown gives a smaller reduction than Islip. The Basic STAR reduction in Islip is $900something; Smithtown is closer to $600. Everyone who gets a STAR reduction will still get that under the new budget.
As far as the rebate checks go, I know several people who live in Islip Town and get almost $1000 in Basic STAR (the reduction that is taken right off the tax bill). That reduction is NOT going away under the new budget! They also got the maximum STAR rebate check which was about $600 and was sent out during the summer. The rebate check program is what may disappear.
IMO you can't say that the discontinuance of the STAR rebate check is "raising your taxes" technically. People could do whatever they wanted with that STAR rebate check. If they were smart, they put it away in savings to put toward their next tax bill or mortgage payment; in reality, what most people did was to spend it on something else. The STAR rebate was more like the Federal stimulus package checks that we all got.
The STAR reduction is taken off your tax bill before the bottom line is calculated. Now if THAT were discontinued, then yes, your taxes would actually go up as a result. But the rebate checks were just a goodie that we got for a couple of years. There was never any promise from NYS that the rebate check program would continue indefinitely.
Very good point, the Star Rebate checks are completley different from the basic star reduction, its basically the state version of the federal tax rebates that were part of the stimulis package (the $300 and $600)
You are confusing the STAR reduction with the STAR rebate checks.
The STAR reductions off your tax bill (Basic STAR, Enhanced STAR, Aged/Senior STAR) are not being touched.
How much of a STAR reduction you get off your tax bill depends on what township you live in. For instance, Smithtown gives a smaller reduction than Islip. The Basic STAR reduction in Islip is $900something; Smithtown is closer to $600. Everyone who gets a STAR reduction will still get that under the new budget.
As far as the rebate checks go, I know several people who live in Islip Town and get almost $1000 in Basic STAR (the reduction that is taken right off the tax bill). That reduction is NOT going away under the new budget! They also got the maximum STAR rebate check which was about $600 and was sent out during the summer. The rebate check program is what may disappear.
Just an FYI:
The amount is not based on the town you live in, but the school district. That's why it's called School TAx Relief Exemption.
In the Town of Huntington, we have many different school districts and they each have a different STAR amount.
Hi Elke, I stand corrected on that. I was originally told that the percentage of the STAR reduction goes by the township but the actual amount will vary according to what your school district is. But the person who told me must have mistakenly said "township" when he meant "set by the state".
I doublechecked that by going to the Smithtown tax rolls website and putting in two streets in which we looked at houses for sale this year. They're both in Smithtown but one street is in the Hauppauge SD and the other is in the Smithtown SD. Sure enough, all the houses on the Smithtown SD street get $896 (obviously they've gone up) for a Basic STAR reduction, while all the houses on the Hauppague SD street get $501 for their Basic STAR.
However, the school taxes in Hauppauge are significantly lower than they are in Smithtown.
I don't have a problem with people using welfare when they need it. What bothers me is the people we see that don't need it, like my ex husband who is too stoned to get employment and considers that his disability and gets welfare. I'm sorry, if I need to pass a drug test at my work, then welfare should institute random drug testing too! If you pass, you get your check. If not, then you don't. That would save the system money AND change people's view of it, since it would be harder for the deadbeats to live off it.
Seems I am not the only one around here that sees that there are legitimate people on "welfare". I work in the health care industry and see people every day that need these services. They do not drive luxury SUVs or dress in designer clothes. These are honest people who have become disabled for one reason or another (accident, age, disease, genetic conditions) and can not afford the astronomical health care costs. Medicaid (welfare) is there only choice. The problem is if you need long term care and end up in a financial situation that gives you no choice but to apply for Medicaid, understand this the state takes EVERYTHING to help recoup some of the money paid out for medical care. All the pension/social security/disability payments someone may be living off of. So other than "welfare" how are these people to survive? While I do see a need to reform the system, most people DO NOT take advantage of the existing one. It disgusts me that we as a society do not feel any obligation to care for our sick and elderly, then complain (while driving our luxury SUVs and wearing our designer clothing) when our tax money is used to help people in need. As for all the "illegals" on welfare, show me one, as you NEED to be here LEGALLY to qualify for these programs.
Wow! I have a luxury SUV! AWESOME!!! I must have misplaced it. Anyway I also work in the healthcare field and I can't POSSIBLY tell you how many illegals come in with different names on different days give fake addresses. And receive top-flight medical care FOR FREE!!!!! Well really on me....and you. So not only do I provide care for someone else I get to pay for it too and please spare me the "it doesn't happen all that often" routine I see it constantly. When I work at an un-named east end hospital Saturday nights are like a drunken illegal demolition derby. MVA's involving DRUNK illegals with forged ID's is the NORM. And to know that I have to pay MORE for it in the future gets me so excited. Also the maternity services we provide for these anchor babies is astounding. I see the same women coming in for their US's and it's their fourth,fifth kid that I know I'm paying for. And I can guarantee that Papi is undocumented. Once you take the mac and cheese home the gov't can't regulate who eats it. catch my drift??
Now I know why I left NY five years ago and moved to the Charlotte area. I really like the part where the new guv is increasing welfare benefits while doing away with background checks. WOW, what a surprise. LOL. And of course what would this genius do if he wasn't releasing 1600 dirtbag inmates? Good luck New Yorkers.
Gov. Patterson is still on my "Good" list for making his first official duty as Governor pardoning the rapper Slick Rick, I still think that's hilarious.
Yeah they fill up the ER's too, clinics,etc. These people do not belong here and I'm sick of ppl turning it into a racial issue...it's about the law!
They use the ER's as clinics and the people who really need emergency care dont get it. It's why I recommend carrying one of these..
http://www.odmp.org/patch.php?id=4830&s=150 (broken link)
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc99
Wow! I have a luxury SUV! AWESOME!!! I must have misplaced it. Anyway I also work in the healthcare field and I can't POSSIBLY tell you how many illegals come in with different names on different days give fake addresses. And receive top-flight medical care FOR FREE!!!!! Well really on me....and you. So not only do I provide care for someone else I get to pay for it too and please spare me the "it doesn't happen all that often" routine I see it constantly. When I work at an un-named east end hospital Saturday nights are like a drunken illegal demolition derby. MVA's involving DRUNK illegals with forged ID's is the NORM. And to know that I have to pay MORE for it in the future gets me so excited. Also the maternity services we provide for these anchor babies is astounding. I see the same women coming in for their US's and it's their fourth,fifth kid that I know I'm paying for. And I can guarantee that Papi is undocumented. Once you take the mac and cheese home the gov't can't regulate who eats it. catch my drift??
I say lets start saving money in our prisons. It costs us about $40,000 a year to house 1 prisoner! $40,00!!! Lets cut out all the extra activites in the prisons and go back to rice and beans for dinner! Maybe even look into letting some of the NON VIOLENT drug offenders free?
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