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Old 01-14-2009, 02:47 PM
 
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59 LI students are Intel science semifinalists -- Newsday.com (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-lisemi1512357284jan14,0,3129501.story - broken link)

Good job to all!!!!
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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A thread already exists on this topic... unless we just want to offer 2 sets of congratulations!
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Nice to see there's one from Elmont. Today Newsday columnist Joye Brown published an article about him and Elmont's science program. Maybe Newsday should rethink putting Elmont on its list of "Substandard School Districts."

Three Village's Ward Melville High School produced the most. However, someone on Newsday's [domain blocked due to spam] forum pointed out that "the winners are the children of doctors and scientists at Stony Brook University." Don't know what s/he meant with that comment. That they are winners because they inherited intelligence or that their parents helped them do their projects and that's why they earned semifinalist status?
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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All of the students in all of the school districts who spent countless hours on their projects deserve recognition whether or not they made the semifinals. KUDOS TO ALL!

I attended a HS which only a couple of years ago had it's first Intel semifinalist. The HS was not wealthy by any means, and the students who did enter the competition used their wits when creating projects. As it was, the semifinalist's project didn't require any mentoring from the SUNY/BNL/CSHL types.

Some people are a bunch of sour grapes -- like the person in the [domain blocked due to spam] forum.

Does the TV proximity to SUNY help? Yes.
Do the connections to BNL help? Yes.
Let's not forget that many of the students across LI who have entered have had mentors from SUNY & BNL.

Yes, a number of semifinalists are children of doctors, scientists, et al, with connections to the aforementioned facilities.

Is it possible that two intelligent parents might happen to bear children who are equally bright? Yes.
Is it possible that such parents understand the benefit to having Intel experience on their child's transcript, and knowing such, are willing to give their child the opportunity? Yes.
If all these parents were 'helping' their children 'do' their projects, why aren't all the Intel students semifinalists?

Sour Grapes doesn't take that into account.

Sour Grapes fails to realize the number of hours a student invests in their research. Mom and Dad can't 'do' that. They don't understand that many of these children forego summer activities, winter vacations, etc. just to spend time culling data, performing research and creating a paper.

Sour Grapes doesn't understand that the semifinalists will be undergoing all manner of interviews -- solo -- when at the finals in 2 months. Anyone who fudged their work will be picked off immediately. What greater dishonor than that?

Sour Grapes must learn that Intel is not like the elementary school science fair. Then again, that's probably the level of intelligence at which Sour Grapes is capable of functioning.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: southern california
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trying to improve the public school system is like trying to buy milk at a hardware store, voucher sooner the better.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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trying to improve the public school system is like trying to buy milk at a hardware store, voucher sooner the better.
I take it that the state of schools in SoCal is terrible?
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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trying to improve the public school system is like trying to buy milk at a hardware store, voucher sooner the better.
No thanks. We have great schools here on LI, we don't need fools from places with inferior schools telling us that our system should be destroyed because Sean Hannity told them it should be. Goodnight.
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Back in New York
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We have a lot of well educated ppl here on LI. The large Jewish and growing Asian populations are a big reason why academics are priority. We sure pay enough in school taxes!!...lol
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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trying to improve the public school system is like trying to buy milk at a hardware store, voucher sooner the better.
Actually, if you spend what it takes to reward performance, schools excel.

Why is it the state schools in Florida are among the worst in the country? Could it have something to do with absolutely no state income tax? County wide districts? Hiring corporate flunkies to run an education system? Uh...Yup!

The New York school system is something the GOP needs to destroy in order to deflate the idea that there is a link between expense and performance.

Evidence is superfluous when you've already decided the solution to everything is privatization. Don't confuse him with facts.
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