
02-03-2009, 05:31 PM
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Is it because the Special Ed kids drag down the test scores or is it purely coincidental?
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02-03-2009, 06:16 PM
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ding ding ding.....crooks is spot on again
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02-03-2009, 09:33 PM
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Is it by design? I know we have people buying here just for our Special Ed program.Our test scores are good but wouldnt it make sense to judge those kids with a different measuring stick? Why punish a District for doing the right thing? Ive heard horror stories about Special needs kids in some of the nearby "Top Districts" . Thats effed...and for what, bragging rights? Shame on them.
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02-03-2009, 11:05 PM
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Location: Long Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crookhaven
Is it because the Special Ed kids drag down the test scores or is it purely coincidental?
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What SDs in particular are you referring to? I know of many good SDs with excellent special ed programs...
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02-03-2009, 11:06 PM
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It's not universal. Half Hollow Hills is considered to be a great district for special ed, particularly autism.
I am actually surprised not because I think the districts are so honest, but because upper middle class parents tend to be very aggressive in getting services when they feel their children will benefit.
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02-03-2009, 11:36 PM
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I disagree... RVC has some of the best Special Ed programs in the state, has an inclusion program and is one of the best school districts on the island.
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02-04-2009, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RVCparent
I disagree... RVC has some of the best Special Ed programs in the state, has an inclusion program and is one of the best school districts on the island.
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Awesome...again the caveat being "seems".
Im curious about the testing methodolgies and % of kids in Special Ed.
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02-04-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Elke Mariotti
What SDs in particular are you referring to? I know of many good SDs with excellent special ed programs...
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I was just curious if that was the norm in your area,
We have folks in the surounding districts moving to Rocky Point for our Special Ed program.
Apparently our neighbors arent pulling their weight and doing very little to remedy it.
I wouldnt change it but I was curious how that might impact testing scores.
Crooks
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02-04-2009, 09:47 AM
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There are NCLB issues for special ed (students are counted) but the problem is that it's a bit like the ostrich. If you don't provide services, the kids aren't going to make AYP anyway. If you have students with disabilities, they're going to pull your scores down no matter what you do.
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02-04-2009, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexisT
There are NCLB issues for special ed (students are counted) but the problem is that it's a bit like the ostrich. If you don't provide services, the kids aren't going to make AYP anyway. If you have students with disabilities, they're going to pull your scores down no matter what you do.
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Per our influx from neighboring districts, it seems like they are remaining less attractive intentionally.
Its a quandry.
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