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Crooks, it's 88% white. it's more diverse than some places, but not that diverse. It says a lot about your standards (and even something about LI in general) that you can call 3V "diverse" with those demographics. Even the 8% Asian isn't really notable compared to the top districts in Nassau.
As I said, there are things I don't love about HHH (and I don't plan on staying here), but it's a standout in terms of diversity and quality of schools. There aren't many districts on LI that manage both.
AT Youre not suggesting that by and large HHH is a AA stronghold?
(Weatley Heights perhaps but Dix Hills....c'mon.)
All I said about 3V was that it was progressive, diverse and affluent.
(And you can ask any parent of an Intel grad if they like the schools)
Sorry, but dollar for dollar I would take Stony Brook, Setauket or Old Field over the LIE Service road and its surrounds anyday.
Sadly, you are correct that LI lacks diversity but you cant argue that SUNY SB doesnt at least bring some color to the area.
Statistically, it would appear that it doesn't bring a heck of a lot of color into the schools. It is not particularly diverse and you're trying to argue perceptions over statistics.
HHH is not an AA "stronghold" but there are African-Americans outside Wheatley Heights--which is simply not that big of an area. As I said, the district has a really crazy zoning system (which serves multiple purposes--part of it is to keep all of Wheatley Heights from being zoned to one school and skewing the demographics, part is because there was so much development in the past 15 years) so it's hard to gauge population spread. But the elementary schools in HHH range from 7 to 19% AA and I don't think they can slice and dice Wheatley Heights enough to account for all of that. According to the Census Wheatley Heights has 5000 people, 48% black--and there are 1,250 AA students in HHH. I've seen more affluent black families moving into the area (I grew up in the South Huntington part of Melville).
There's a lot more to the area than the LIE service road and the McMansions, too. 3V is very pretty, no argument there, but a lot of Dix Hills and Melville are very nice. We even have hills and trees and nice lots.
I went to Adelphi University in Garden City and the police were notorious to stopping/harrasing minority students. Perhaps they were trying to keep the Hempstead population out?I also observed at the middle school and I don't recall seeing any minority students at all. I'm not saying that you would have any problems or be overtly unwelcome, but I'm not sure that you would feel comfortable. Garden City also is not super welcoming to Jews either. With so many other nice areas, I'm not sure if I would pick that one.
FYI, stats for Garden City are 1% black (33 students), 1% Latino (59), 2% Asian (105), 95% white (4061). It's one of the whitest districts in the county (so far, only one to beat it is Massapequa, at 96% white.)
Intersting stats on Massapequa. One would have thought it has become a lil' more diverse than that.
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FYI, stats for Garden City are 1% black (33 students), 1% Latino (59), 2% Asian (105), 95% white (4061). It's one of the whitest districts in the county (so far, only one to beat it is Massapequa, at 96% white.)
Statistically, it would appear that it doesn't bring a heck of a lot of color into the schools. It is not particularly diverse and you're trying to argue perceptions over statistics.
HHH is not an AA "stronghold" but there are African-Americans outside Wheatley Heights--which is simply not that big of an area. As I said, the district has a really crazy zoning system (which serves multiple purposes--part of it is to keep all of Wheatley Heights from being zoned to one school and skewing the demographics, part is because there was so much development in the past 15 years) so it's hard to gauge population spread. But the elementary schools in HHH range from 7 to 19% AA and I don't think they can slice and dice Wheatley Heights enough to account for all of that. According to the Census Wheatley Heights has 5000 people, 48% black--and there are 1,250 AA students in HHH. I've seen more affluent black families moving into the area (I grew up in the South Huntington part of Melville).
There's a lot more to the area than the LIE service road and the McMansions, too. 3V is very pretty, no argument there, but a lot of Dix Hills and Melville are very nice. We even have hills and trees and nice lots.
Listen Dix Hills is beautiful, I just dont find it anywhere near as charming as the 3V area and 3V has a great district.
I hate to say it but a community on the North Shore thats 80% White is failry diverse by LI standards.
FWIW theres a significant Jewish population in both communites too.
I found the mix in 3v to be very smart and very cool.
Not long ago we were hearing that Baldwin was a great diversity success story for LI.
What are some diverse towns on Long Island that a black person could feel comfortable in? Don't even say Roosvelt, Wyandanch, and Hempstead. Because I don't even feel comfortable in those.
What are some diverse towns on Long Island that a black person could feel comfortable in? Don't even say Roosvelt, Wyandanch, and Hempstead. Because I don't even feel comfortable in those.
Can anyone shed some light on Baldwin?
It was a top town a few years back.
I stand by 3v in terms of comfortable.
Race percentages aside its a very progressive and open minded community.
I know youd be welcomed there.
Crooks
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Crooks, not 80% white--88%. And as I said, 2% black--not that AA population is the arbiter of diversity, but it's very relevant if you are black. 2 of the elementary schools had fewer than 10 black students in the last report cards.
HHH is much more Jewish than 3V, IMO (though 3V is one of the larger communities in that area--possibly the largest that far east; not sure how it compares to Smithtown).
There's more diversity in North Shore schools than you might think, though in part that's because the very wealthy don't send their children to public schools and there's a cluster of more working class towns directly on the Sound. South Shore Nassau is the most segregated. East of Freeport, it's solidly white.
Baldwin is an odd one. The harbor is nice and a lot of middle class black families have moved in. However, it's got Hempstead to the north and Freeport to the east, and that's affected the schools negatively--my grandmother's neighbors used to talk about Hempstead kids who were illegally attending Baldwin schools.
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