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View Poll Results: Given the current economic meltdown, do we really need the U.S Postal service?
Eliminate the U.S Postal service 28 52.83%
Keep the U.S Postal service open 25 47.17%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-21-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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We already have plenty of competition in private industry for shipping. Let's keep the lower cost non-profit alternative that has worked for hundreds of years and not subject it to destruction via right wing ideology. I remember how some people wanted to privatize social security..that would have turned out well post-market meltdown.
Yeah HRH Bush II was certainly pushing THAT to feed commissions to his base of elites on Wall Street ...
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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Default "Live Free or Die"

"Live Free or Die" (http://tinyurl.com/ch3raa - broken link) is an important essay by Mark Steyn concerning how the state has gradually annexed all the responsibilities of adulthood -- health care, child care, care of the elderly -- to the point where it's effectively severed its citizens from humanity's primal instincts, not least the survival instinct, and how this is now happening in the U.S.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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"Live Free or Die" (http://tinyurl.com/ch3raa - broken link) is an important essay by Mark Steyn concerning how the state has gradually annexed all the responsibilities of adulthood -- health care, child care, care of the elderly -- to the point where it's effectively severed its citizens from humanity's primal instincts, not least the survival instinct, and how this is now happening in the U.S.

Like I said, let's not subject good public institutions to destruction because a right wing ideology says that all harmony in the Universe is destroyed if they happen to actually work. In this case, let's not destroy the post office because some people fancy themselves to be stone age cowboys roaming the plains being "rugged individuals".

Humanity's primal instinct leads to one guy shooting another guy because he wants his wife. Let's calm down a bit here, Walter.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:53 AM
 
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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery." -- Winston Churchill
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery." -- Winston Churchill
We get it, you don't like anything that the government creates for the public good, no matter whether it works...well, except the military, right wingers love that. You hate socialism. Social Security and the Post Office are Socialist entities. Your point is taken.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery." -- Winston Churchill
Excellent quote walter and absolutely correct.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:01 PM
 
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Apparently, and not vouching for the accuracy of this link, but the USPS actually makes money each year, a billion $'s a year?

The United States Postal Service (USPS). Is it government agency or a private business? It's both.
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Old 05-21-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: New York and Arizona
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My vote, get rid of it! It's another thing with the times like newspapers and magazines, and paper checks and banking statements, going to go the way of bye bye!
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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Apparently, and not vouching for the accuracy of this link, but the USPS actually makes money each year, a billion $'s a year?

The United States Postal Service (USPS). Is it government agency or a private business? It's both.

According to Postal chief says post office running out of money :

WASHINGTON (AP) - The post office will run out of money this year unless it gets help, Postmaster General John Potter told Congress on Wednesday (March 25) as he sought permission to cut delivery to five days a week.

"We are facing losses of historic proportion. Our situation is critical," Potter told a House panel.

The agency lost $2.8 billion last year and is looking at much larger losses this year. Reducing mail delivery from six days to five days a week could save $3.5 billion annually, Potter said.
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:35 PM
 
Location: NY
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There are some interesting facts (not opinion, simply facts) about the USPS at this link, including its legal status and how it is organized as well as financial structure:

The United States Postal Service (USPS). Is it government agency or a private business? It's both.
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