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View Poll Results: Charles Wang's Lighthouse?
Just Build It 25 75.76%
No way 6 18.18%
Who cares 2 6.06%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-05-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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4 million,,,big deal.....the bond that East Meadow floated just to get new windows was 20 million....4 million is nothing, when you need to expand schools
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:20 AM
 
Location: The Dirty Dale
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According to a recent NEWSDAy article, Wang has already pledged to give $4,000,000 to the Uniondale Union Free School District (includes the Hamlet of Uniondale and the Hamlet of East Garden City) as soon as the project gets governnental approvals and the necessary permits are issued.
He's also pledged $425,000 to the Uniondale Fire Department.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:25 AM
 
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aren't those Payments In Lieu of Taxes? Perhaps someone who is well versed in the differences between PILOTs and straight taxes can explain whether or not Uniondale is getting a good deal here.
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:58 AM
 
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aren't those Payments In Lieu of Taxes? Perhaps someone who is well versed in the differences between PILOTs and straight taxes can explain whether or not Uniondale is getting a good deal here.

PILOT or not for Uniondalem theyre converting a suburban slum into a destination location and the ratables will be strong.

Theres tremendous local support for the project.
Id be deeply suspicious of its demise.

Next stop. Eminient domain for the Main Line expansion.

Crooks
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:43 AM
 
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PILOT or not for Uniondalem theyre converting a suburban slum into a destination location and the ratables will be strong.
it's a little more complicated that that...

And somehow I don't see the streets of Uniondale below Hempstead Turnpike changing all that much if/when this project is completed.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:08 AM
 
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it's a little more complicated that that...

And somehow I don't see the streets of Uniondale below Hempstead Turnpike changing all that much if/when this project is completed.
Why can't they gentrify given what happened to peripheral areas of Brooklyn/Astoria relative to Manhattan, city burbs of DC and Baltimore, etc. Throw up a young professionals microbrewery, toss in a java cafe and banana republic boutique and Wala! Gentrification here we come...
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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Why can't they gentrify given what happened to peripheral areas of Brooklyn/Astoria relative to Manhattan, city burbs of DC and Baltimore, etc. Throw up a young professionals microbrewery, toss in a java cafe and banana republic boutique and Wala! Gentrification here we come...
are you serious or being sarcastic? lol...
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Wellsville, Glurt County
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Why can't they gentrify given what happened to peripheral areas of Brooklyn/Astoria relative to Manhattan, city burbs of DC and Baltimore, etc. Throw up a young professionals microbrewery, toss in a java cafe and banana republic boutique and Wala! Gentrification here we come...
Aside from the Lighthouse project, this is what I think that area needs:

1) Direct link to the LIRR. Hempstead and Mineola are close, but still way past walking distance. This is do-able since the Hempstead Branch actually continues eastward right through the heart of the Mitchell Field/Nassau Collesium area, though it hasn't been used for anything but circus trains in years. Garden City residents would go ape if this happened....this line could also be connected to the Main Line at Farmingdale as a second route for Lighthouse or Manhattan-bound Suffolk commuters....but even more people would flip about that.

2) Put a SUNY school right in the middle of Hempstead. There have been SUNY schools placed in just-as-dumpy upstate cities that have helped the local economy. This also gives a huge influx of young, hip, college educated residents to the area...possibly seeking a place to settle down after they get their degree and a good paying job. Instant legitimacy!

3) Along with the college, get investors to throw money at downtown Hempstead...and link this up with the Lighthouse, Roosevelt Field Mall and possibly 7th Ave Garden City through some light-rail or dedicated bus routes. The Lighthouse is a big project, but not big enough to resemble an actual city....if the entire middle of Nassau were re-imagined as a pedestrian friendly area with distinct neighborhoods, restaurants, bars, shopping and some kind of discernable culture of it's own, it'd be very easy to get people and business to move in and pay top dollar. Hempstead is the hood currently, but it's business district is at least vaguely similar to areas in Brooklyn and Queens that have been able to gentrify. The sterile, corporate shimmer of the Lighthouse can only go so far...Hempstead has the classic urban layout that yuppies gravitate towards.
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